Paul's ethics; do Paul's ideas on slavery differ in the PEs?

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I want to focus now on Tit 2:1-10. Are the ideas here different from those of Paul elsewhere in the NT? Is the advice here solely what one would expect from upright Romans?

This pericope seems to advocate good living and good beliefs for all, young and old, men and women, slave and free.

Paul’s ethics were essentially based on Roman ideals, similar to the Stoic and Cynic philosophers. Grace is built on nature and the cardinal virtues are not essentially religious. Thus the ethics in the PEs are not in conflict with those of Paul expressed elsewhere.

In the authentic letters of Paul one reads:

“Were you a slave when called? Do not be concerned about it. Even if you can gain your freedom, make use of your present condition now more than ever” (1 Cor 7:21).

Also one reads:

“Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything, not only while being watched and in order to please them, but wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord” (Col 3:22).

and

“Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ;” (Eph 6:5).

Finally:

“Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior (Tit 2:9,10).

Thus the advice for slaves is similar in the authentic Letters of Paul and in those where authorship is questioned, whether in the PEs or not.

There is a constancy in Paul’s teaching on slavery. So, in this instance, the concepts in the PE and the rest of Paul’s writings are not in conflict.

Do you agree with the views in this post, some of which are not universally accepted?
 
For Paul, a person’s status in this world (slave/free, Jew/Gentile, male/female) has ceased to be important. What is important is the person’s status in eternity, or in the Kingdom - is the person a part of the Body of Christ?

No matter what a person’s status, in Paul’s teaching, being a Christian means “whatever you do, in word or deed, do all in the Name of Christ” (Col. 3) - So, if you are a slave and a Christian, don’t worry about your slave status, which is not important anymore. But be sure that you fulfill your duties impeccably, because you are doing them not for your earthly master but to honor your heavenly one.
 
NHInsider,

Thanks once more. I think we generally agree, BUT.
You wrote:
For Paul, a person’s status in this world (slave/free, Jew/Gentile, male/female) has ceased to be important
I agree, since Paul wrote
There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus (Gal 3:28).

However Paul considered a person’s status important, in, for example 1 Tim 1:10. Paul does not approve of f*ornicators, sodomites, slave traders, liars, perjurers, *

Thus the status of a slave dealer is not indifferent for Paul.
 
NHInsider,

Thanks once more. I think we generally agree, BUT.
You wrote:

I agree, since Paul wrote
There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus (Gal 3:28).

However Paul considered a person’s status important, in, for example 1 Tim 1:10. Paul does not approve of f*ornicators, sodomites, slave traders, liars, perjurers, *

Thus the status of a slave dealer is not indifferent for Paul.
you compared slavery here to a list of sinful acts. know that slavery back then is different to the slavery in the last few hundred years. there were slaves back then who were slaves because they owed someone a great debt and the only way they can repay is through servitude. that is why its mentioned that slaves eventually become free men. after they repaid their debt, they become free. there are also people who are struggling in poverty and their only way to have a better life is to become a rich man’s slave.
 
Choy,
thanks for your reply.

I go along partially with you. There were some who sold themselves into slavery, and slavery in the Roman Empire was different from slavery in later times. However there were slaves who became so due to capture and other reasons against their will.
 
Paul was dealing with particular problems of local congregations. It was a time when the Christian community was just forming. Trying to take on and change the social institution of slavery would have brought down the animus of the powerful. Paul had a taste of this in Ephesus when he incurred the wrath of the artisans who made souvenirs for the Temple of Artemis. Thus, he concerned himself more with the inner life of believers who might be slaves rather than to attack the institution. That he personally was opposed to slavery may be seen in the letter to Philemon.
 
Oldtimer 7,

you seem to portray a cowardly Paul, who was afraid to condemn the practice of slavery for fear of the animus of the powerful.

I cannot see anything in Philemon which shows that Paul was against the institution of slavery.
 
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