Pentecostal women not allowed to wear pants?

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Ok, there is a large Pentecostal church near where I grew up named “First Pentecostal Church.” Looking at their website I see that they are a UPCI church. I had no idea until today that they were a Oneness Pentecostal church. In any event, I guess that explains why most of my encounters with Pentecostals have been with the denim skirt, no makeup, long hair pulled up into a bun variety.
Yes, I have met people who have been confused by this in the past. There is a definite difference in how Trinitarian Pentecostals and Oneness Pentecostals advertise themselves as Pentecostals. Oneness Pentecostals tend to assert strongly their identity as Pentecostals, while Trinitarian Pentecostals will often simply say that they are Christian or will cite their local church or their denomination (which often doesn’t have the word “Pentecostal” in it).

Adherents of mainstream Pentecostalism (i.e. Assemblies of God, Church of God (Cleveland), Foursquare Church or Pentecostal Holiness) or “pop Pentecostalism” (i.e. Hillsong and similar varieties) may not even realize that their church is a “Pentecostal” church because often that label is less emphasized.

So, you probably have met other Pentecostals but just didn’t realize it.
 
Yes, I have met people who have been confused by this in the past. There is a definite difference in how Trinitarian Pentecostals and Oneness Pentecostals advertise themselves as Pentecostals. Oneness Pentecostals tend to assert strongly their identity as Pentecostals, while Trinitarian Pentecostals will often simply say that they are Christian or will cite their local church or their denomination (which often doesn’t have the word “Pentecostal” in it).

Adherents of mainstream Pentecostalism (i.e. Assemblies of God, Church of God (Cleveland), Foursquare Church or Pentecostal Holiness) or “pop Pentecostalism” (i.e. Hillsong and similar varieties) may not even realize that their church is a “Pentecostal” church because often that label is less emphasized.

So, you probably have met other Pentecostals but just didn’t realize it.
The AOG churches around here that I used to occasionally attended did not refer to themselves as “Pentecostal”, but rather as “Charismatic”. They did not like the use of the word “Pentecostal” to describe themselves. Perhaps it was because one of the biggest Pentecostal churches around here is an Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness Church that is non-trinitarian.

One preacher said they were also more orderly. Whether other AOG churches refer to themselves as “charismatic” I don’t know, but the two I attended did. The AOG website refers to themselves as Pentecostal.
 
The AOG churches around here that I used to occasionally attended did not refer to themselves as “Pentecostal”, but rather as “Charismatic”. They did not like the use of the word “Pentecostal” to describe themselves. Perhaps it was because one of the biggest Pentecostal churches around here is an Apostolic Pentecostal Holiness Church that is non-trinitarian.
That could be the reason. It’s also possible that they just realize that Pentecostals are often stigmatized as “Holy Rollers” and fanatics. They probably just think that calling themselves “charismatic” is less offensive to people they are trying to reach.

It still doesn’t change the fact that they are classical Pentecostals, not charismatics.
One preacher said they were also more orderly. Whether other AOG churches refer to themselves as “charismatic” I don’t know, but the two I attended did. The AOG website refers to themselves as Pentecostal.
The AG is not a charismatic church. By all accounts, it is a classical Pentecostal church arising out of the radical holiness movement of the second half of the nineteenth century. All classical Pentecostal denominations are traced back to the Los Angeles Azusa Street Revival led by William J. Seymour, which broke out in the first decade of the 20th century.

The charismatic movement started only in the 1960s among mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics. During the 1980s, evangelical Protestants began to respond to the charismatic movement with the rise of groups like John Wimber’s Vineyard Movement. They preferred to call themselves “empowered evangelicals” and scholars gave them the label “neo-charismatics.”

Pentecostals, charismatics, and neo-charismatics share an emphasis on spiritual gifts and the experiential side of Christian life. However, there are important differences that we have over theology, mostly over the exact nature of the baptism in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues.

The differences between Pentecostals and charismatics have nothing to do with how orderly the church in question is. Often, charismatic meetings are more rowdy and seemingly dysfunctional than their older Pentecostal counterparts. The Toronto Blessing, for example, that became famous for the animal farm noises produced by those in attendance was a neo-charismatic revival, not a classical Pentecostal one. Most classical Pentecostals thought it was weird.

I’m not saying this to dispute what you were told at those AG churches. I believe you and am not surprise that AG pastors would try to rebrand their local churches as “charismatic” rather than “Pentecostal.” You may know this, but there are AG pastors and churches who try to act like generic evangelicals and often try to downplay their affiliation with the AG. Nevertheless, their attempt at rebranding does not change the theological identity of an entire denomination. It also can’t change history, and it is a historical fact that Pentecostalism is something distinct from the charismatic movement.
 
I guess you can say even if the Pentecostal movement began first with the emergence of the Charismatic movement the Pentecostal movement is seen as a subset of it as it is a subset of Christianity as a whole
 
The entire context of my statement was about women’s dress.
My apologies.
I was speaking in a larger context, and misunderstood your statement.
Even so, it’s horrible if any church is oppressing women no matter how it occurs. I’d like to know what kind of oppression you’ve seen in Pentecostal churches?
At the risk of derailing the thread…
I have watched a few carry out regular business, and have been shocked by their treatment of women.
Women attend, but are told they cannot say a word. They must be silent and cannot contribute at all. But at the same time the church will allow a women to pastor, it strikes me as inconsistent and wrong.
 
At the risk of derailing the thread…
I have watched a few carry out regular business, and have been shocked by their treatment of women.
Women attend, but are told they cannot say a word. They must be silent and cannot contribute at all.
Wait do you mean a church business meeting? Or are you talking about a church service?

Either one sounds odds. Telling women they must be silent in church denies them the opportunity to prophesy, as Paul clearly indicates that women were allowed to do (1 Corinthians 11:5). I have never heard of a Pentecostal church that encouraged anyone to be silent. We tend to be loud in our worship, and we like it that way. As the Psalmist says, “O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.” I mean this is a serious conundrum.

If you mean a church business meeting, well, I have never saw or heard of anything so draconian as shutting women out of business meetings. I don’t even see how that would work in practice because women carry out so much of the day to day work of the church. Anyway, this does not sound like mainstream Pentecostalism at all.

There are churches that only believe in male deacons (deacons help the pastor run the church), but women are still members of the congregation and would have rights to be present, to speak and to vote at congregational business meetings.
But at the same time the church will allow a women to pastor, it strikes me as inconsistent and wrong.
I agree it seems strange. I don’t know what kind of Pentecostals you’ve encountered, but they definitely seem out of the mainstream.
 
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