Perspectives; Andrew Jackson

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Andrew Jackson (1767 – 1845) was an American soldier and statesman who served as the seventh president of the United States from 1829 to 1837. Before being elected to the presidency, Jackson gained fame as a general in the United States Army and served in both houses of the U.S. Congress. As president, Jackson sought to advance the rights of the common man against a “corrupt aristocracy” and to preserve the Union. Born in the colonial Carolinas to a Scots-Irish family in the decade before the American Revolutionary War, Jackson became a frontier lawyer and married Rachel Donelson Robards. He served briefly in the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate, representing Tennessee. After resigning, he served as a justice on the Tennessee Supreme Court from 1798 until 1804.
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I’m just going to say my family has some issues with him, especially my mom’s side and I’ll leave it at that
 
Andrew Jackson was a great president that fought the bank. Best part is he won.
 
He was a feisty old gentleman.

What they did to his wife was unspeakable. He never forgave them.
 
I’m just going to say my family has some issues with him
A lot of people did. A lot. I’ve read four biographies of the fellow and he certainly had his detractors and enemies. One bit I’ve always remembered about him was that he, as a young man, was shot in the chest during a duel. He survived, obviously, but for years afterward, according to the story, he continually coughed up small bits of fabric that entered a lung along with the round piece of shot.
 
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I’m just going to say my family has some issues with him
A lot of people did. A lot. I’ve read four biographies of the fellow and he certainly had his detractors and enemies. One bit I’ve always remembered about him was that he, as a young man, was shot in the chest during a duel. He survived, obviously, but for years afterward, according to the story, he continually coughed up small bits of fabric that entered a lung along with the round piece of shot.
And, that shot was never removed. In the end, he died from lead poisoning.
 
In the end, he died from lead poisoning.
At the ripe old age of 78, but he was in constant ill health, probably from that same lead. A more humorous aspect ( from my point of view, at least ) of this was his lifelong problem from dysentery. The doctors of his time prescribed increasing doses of some sort of powder that was supposed to help but it turned out, as they now know today, what he was given was a powerful laxative. 🙂
 
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In the end, he died from lead poisoning.
At the ripe old age of 78, but he was in constant ill health, probably from that same lead. A more humorous aspect ( from my point of view, at least ) of this was his lifelong problem from dysentery. The doctors of his time prescribed increasing doses of some sort of powder that was supposed to help but it turned out, as they now know today, what he was given was a powerful diarhetic. 🙂
Ha-ha! Might have contributed to his being so cantankerous.
 
He fought the duel because the other man insulted his wife. When he became more prominent, the news media insulted her right into the grave. Bet that made him pretty cantankerous too.

Andy Jackson knew what it was like to have to endure a lot of hardship for his survival. Most of his detractors didn’t have a clue. I’ll leave it at that.
 
I’ll just leave this here:

*The controversy surrounding his marriage to Rachel remained a sore point for Jackson, who deeply resented attacks on his wife’s honor. By May 1806, Charles Dickinson, who, like Jackson, raced horses, had published an attack on Jackson in the local newspaper, and it resulted in a written challenge from Jackson to a duel. Since Dickinson was considered an expert shot, Jackson determined it would be best to let Dickinson turn and fire first, hoping that his aim might be spoiled in his quickness; Jackson would wait and take careful aim at Dickinson. Dickinson did fire first, hitting Jackson in the chest. The bullet that struck Jackson was so close to his heart that it could not be removed. *Under the rules of dueling, Dickinson had to remain still as Jackson took aim and shot and killed him. Jackson’s behavior in the duel outraged men in Tennessee, who called it a brutal, cold-blooded killing and saddled Jackson with a reputation as a violent, vengeful man. He became a social outcast.

There’s more much more, but Andrew Jackson was a wealthy land owner, and I’ll leave it at that.
And Andrew Jackson wasn’t Catholic.

So, for any Catholics who might be lurking and feel like they are in bizaro world. No, we are the Universal Church from all parts of the world. We won’t agree on everything nor see everything the same way. The best thing is live as you live as a Catholic from what you know of your Catholicism and accept others for their views, whether Catholic or not Catholic.
 
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Andrew Jackson did not grow up wealthy. Many of his close family members died when he was growing up, and he almost died himself. As for not being a Catholic, I seem to recall his mother was Presbyterian, as was his wife. Presbyterians did not exactly approve of his hot temper, nor are they somehow less holy than Catholics. I should know, I married into a family of them.

I’ll be muting this thread now. Andrew Jackson is best discussed with history scholars, not with strangers on the Internet in an era when it is trendy to either lionize or demonize him. Yes, he’s always been a polarizing figure, but to me, a fascinating one. Much more interesting than most of those who dislike him.
 
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He has been for years on my list top 5 favorite Presidents. I can probably remember the other four after a good night’s sleep. LOL
 
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