Pervasive Judgmentalism Among Some Protestants

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Ugh. This isn’t the first time this has happened.

I picked up the *Bible Baptist Tribune *today, it was sitting on the coffeetable. My Baptist grandmother had left it there. There were several off-base things in there, but most of it was okay.

Or, at least I thought that it was okay until I came across an article about world evangelization. There was a map, showing the areas of supposedly “reached” and “unreached” people.

I was upset. Foremost, the majority of Catholic-dominated countries were shown as “formative/nominal churches”. :mad:
The ones that weren’t were the South American countries, which were shown as “emerging” and “growing” churches; in other words, the new-fangled, Protestant-planted sects were the only ones considered, the Catholic Church was considered nominal and “opposed to Christ”.:mad:

Secondly, the Orthodox-dominated areas were shown completely nominal, and the Coptic Orthodox Church, and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church were shown as completely nominal, too. Only the Protestant areas (United States) and places where there was servere Protestant missions aimed at converting Catholics were shown as blue (“emerging church”) and green (“growing”). :mad:

In other words, even though there are Catholics and Orthodox, many very devout and living in poor regions, and some even suffering and dying for their faith-- are all nominal and need to be converted to evangelical Protestantism. :mad:

That is so presumptuous and judgmental, it’s beyond belief.

The article stated (in a paragraph entitled, Spiritually Unfriendly Forces):

“Today we must challenge the claims of world religions opposed t Christ, such as Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism. We must also counter the false teachings of Catholicism, the cults, and the New Age Movement.”

They put Catholicism right in the same category as “the cults” and the New Age Movement! :mad:

Why do alot of Protestants (not all) do this? This is one of several times I’ve seen this, repeatedly. There was even a previous article in the Bible Baptist Tribune that talked about a man who tried to convert an Orthodox priest, and saying the Orthodox priest was nasty to him. They also sayed that they encountered an Orthodox woman crying, because “she didn’t know why that boy [Jesus] had to die on a cross”. Sounds like a made-up story to me. :mad:
They have no right to paint the Orthodox and Catholics like this.
The Orthodox and the Catholics have done one hundred more times evangelization than the Protestant sects, but then they’re accused of all being “nominal”.

What justifies this? What causes this kind of presumption? What causes this judgmentalism? Is it a part of evangelical Protestantism’s (supposed) anti-Catholicism and anti-Orthodox mentality, considering them all nominal…?

It really gets me steamed, seeing this kind of sweeping accusations of nominality against the Catholic Church and the Orthodox churches. It’s just not right.
 
I am shocked at what appears to be a large number of Catholics who seem to be just realizing this thing goes on and has gone on for a long time.

There are some specific organizations and some denominations who routinely practice Anti-Catholicism and delight in proliferating misinformation and just out and out lies.

There are many websites such as the following:

cuttingedge.org/articles/rome.html
carm.org/
christianparty.net/catholicprotestant.htm
catholicarrogance.org/

It isn’t new, it’s been going on in one form or another for 2000 years
 
There are some specific organizations and some denominations who routinely practice Anti-Catholicism and delight in proliferating misinformation and just out-and-out lies.
Are there still denominations that officially are anti-Catholic? I mean, do they have official statements against the Holy Catholic Church?
There are many websites such as the following:
Oh…! :eek:

😦 😦 😦
 
This kind of rhetoric among Protestants is a horrible tragedy. I guess charity went out of style a long time ago. Such a shame.
 
Are there still denominations that officially are anti-Catholic? I mean, do they have official statements against the Holy Catholic Church?
Yes, there are several. Though, many have toned down the anti-Catholic rhetoric in order to appear more peaceful and, therefore, more likely to receive weak Catholic converts. The 7th Day Adventists are inherently anti-Catholic, as are Jehovah’s Witnesses. Both their literature is filled with misconceptions and downright lies. Some have stopped referring to the Catholic Church by name, relying on tongue and cheek nuances. The roman collar is used primarily as an illustration of a “false religion”.
 
Are there still denominations that officially are anti-Catholic? I mean, do they have official statements against the Holy Catholic Church?

Oh…! :eek:

😦 😦 😦
This kind of rhetoric among Protestants is a horrible tragedy. I guess charity went out of style a long time ago. Such a shame.
If you guys only knew… :sad_yes:
And to think, many of these people get PAID for it.
 
Whoa! Take a breath. Count to ten.

There is pervasive judgmentalism among all sorts of people.

:eek:

We do know that, don’t we?
 
I am shocked at what appears to be a large number of Catholics who seem to be just realizing this thing goes on and has gone on for a long time.

There are some specific organizations and some denominations who routinely practice Anti-Catholicism and delight in proliferating misinformation and just out and out lies.

There are many websites such as the following:

cuttingedge.org/articles/rome.html
carm.org/
christianparty.net/catholicprotestant.htm
catholicarrogance.org/

It isn’t new, it’s been going on in one form or another for 2000 years
Some muslim sites are worse than that.😦 :mad:
 
Whoa! Take a breath. Count to ten.

There is pervasive judgmentalism among all sorts of people.

:eek:

We do know that, don’t we?
That’s true. No denying it. I do think that it is especially systematized in certain contemporary Protestant circles, though. When I hear that Italy is “less than 1% Christian,” I cringe, and I haven’t even swum the Tiber!
 
Anti-Catholicism tracts can get me somewhat steamed up, but ironically it was pretty close after I received an anti-Catholic tract at a Fundamentalist church I checked out my first book on Catholicism at school. I crossed the Tiber this past May. 😃

When encountered with these obvious falsehoods, I gently correct them and let that person know the whole truth. I try not to argue (although it can get pretty heated), and I have had some step back from their attacks and later on have asked me more questions about Catholicism.

These tracts are horrible; luckily I haven’t seen one in a long time lately and maybe if I saw one out, I’d throw it away from all prying eyes. But I think twice as it might be a teaching moment…

God Bless!
Ericka
 
When I was Pentecostal, I read on a site I knew nothing about that perhaps up to eight percent of Americans are really Christians, and I mentioned this in Wednesday Service, and everyone accepted it as possibly a high figure if anything.
We were supposed to be evangelizing enough to double that figure weekly, each team going out and bringing in their matching number of coverts on Saturday night and coming to church with them Sunday morning. Of course it was impossible and we were always being exhorted and yelled at to do better.
I noticed that if we started with five percent (an accepted lowish guess), after one week we would have ten, two weeks, 20, three weeks, 40, four weeks, 80 percent. In a calendar month or so we would have a hundred percent of our country fitting our definition of Christian. Instead, we were silently staying the same or losing membership in most churches. It seemed impossible to understand. The idea that the people we were reaching were in fact already Christian and didn’t want to be in churches like ours wasn’t on our radar at all.
 
Well, God really does move in mysterious ways.

When I was 11-years-old, I got three Jack Chick comicbooks for my birthday. There were two in the Alberto series, all about the horrors of those nasty mary-worshipping Catholics.

For the first time I was introduced to the concept that the Catholic Church is way older than the Protestant sects, and that the Catholic Church claimed apostolic succession (albeit, the comic was trying to prove the Church wrong). There were also pictures of Catholic worship-- I remember thinking how different and beautiful Catholic worship must be compared to our rock-band “Praise-and-Worship” music and “relevant” preaching of our neo-fundamentalist (i.e., a Protestant church with newfangled P&W-type services with drums and guitars, yet still retaining practically all of Protestant Fundamentalism’s beliefs) sect.

I realized, if the Catholic Church really is older than the Protestant sects, and if it really does have apostolic succession, then it is superior to Protestantism.

This is what spurred me on to investigating the Catholic Church.

And today I’m in RCIA. 🙂
 
To suggest that judgmentalism and misrepresentation are only perpetrated against Catholics in this world, as some of the Catholics seem to be suggesting in their posts, is pretty outrageous. Just pick a random thread that Jimmy B has started and you’re guaranteed to find some anti-Protestant, judgmental, misleading statements.
 
Are there still denominations that officially are anti-Catholic? I mean, do they have official statements against the Holy Catholic Church?
The Lutheran’s officially claim the Pope is the antichrist:

lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=579

Of course, the Catholic Church has official statements “against” Protestant communities defending and proclaiming our status as the sole Church founded by Christ, entrusted with the fullness of truth and the means of salvation; all other Churches and ecclesial communites are considered defective in one way or the other.
 
To suggest that judgmentalism and misrepresentation are only perpetrated against Catholics in this world, as some of the Catholics seem to be suggesting in their posts…
Uh, noöne said that, as far as I can see. 🤷

But it’s true that there’s more anti-Catholicism than there is anti-protestantism. Especially amongst protestants and the liberal-leaning media.
 
Uh, noöne said that, as far as I can see. 🤷

But it’s true that there’s more anti-Catholicism than there is anti-protestantism. Especially amongst protestants and the liberal-leaning media.
The whole thread paints Catholics as victims, which is hardly a reflection of reality. As someone else pointed out, all people can be judgmental, regardless of religion.

A statement being viewed as judgmental is also a matter of perspective. A Protestant could easily, and quite justifiably, see Catholic opinion regarding Protestant churches as “separated bretheren” and “ecclesial communities without the full truth” as “judgmental” positions.

My point is that no religion holds the corner on perpetrating or being a victim of judgment. I’m sure one could start a thread entitled, “Pervasive Judgmentalism Among Some Catholics” and find numerous examples of this happening.
 
The Lutheran’s officially claim the Pope is the antichrist:

lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=579

Of course, the Catholic Church has official statements “against” Protestant communities defending and proclaiming our status as the sole Church founded by Christ, entrusted with the fullness of truth and the means of salvation; all other Churches and ecclesial communites are considered defective in one way or the other.
It is sad that my Church still has this dated polemic in the confession. Most Lutherans I talk to either don’t know it is there, or don’t believe it can be applied to people such as JP II or Paul VI, or even Benedict XVI (even my young pastor). As you say, the anathemas go both ways, sadly enough.

Jon
 
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