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I am fortunate to go to a very devout Dominican church (people at confession weekly) and also watch EWTN. I have heard 2 priests bring up the fact during Easter season, that although some defile Judas, most Catholics should leave his fate up to God and not “sentence him on earth”. Pope John Paul ll said, we don’t know what Jesus meant by his words or how literal they were and I agree…there are so many reasons he would wish he wasn’t born and he was an example of “what not to do”.
I did hear 2 priests bring up also that St. Peter was not the epitome of a faithful servant then either. Not once in scripture do we hear Peter say he was sorry, none, BEFORE Jesus died. We see a sorry apostole when he leaves the boat to swim to him, but even then, he is asked 3 times, if he loves him, but we are not privey to any “I’m sorry Lord”. They were hiding when Jesus first appeared to them behind locked doors. I think in some ways, Judas knew he helped kill Jesus, but didn’t understand it was going to happen, no matter what. Jesus could have gotten out of it at any time, that just started the ball rolling.
Judas, did what many, unfortunately do in deep despair, kill themselves, and the fact he didn’t understand Jesus, was shared by the men that didn’t stay with him before, during and after his death. If Judas said, “Im sorry Lord” before he let the rope go, we wont know any more than we will with Peter. He had a second chance and much grace that came after the resurrection. I can only hope that we can learn how much Christ can forgive, when he forgave them for being so scared and doubting. Many don’t realize there isn’t scripture for any forgiveness conversation with Jesus and the aposotles. Actions do speak louder than words though.
I think we all believe at times, we can’t be forgiven, some go to confession for the same sin, many times, but most of us don’t suffer from severe depression. As the priest said, dispair is the worst thing, it robs us of the freedom of knowing God loves us…may we all never fall that deep into the pit and may God, who knows our mental state, welcome our misguided brothers and sisters after death.
I pray for my friend, who after her husband killed himself years ago (20) was treated horribly by our church and never returned. I’m glad they have understood the psychology of suicide better, but many, many people have been hurt in the interim.
I did hear 2 priests bring up also that St. Peter was not the epitome of a faithful servant then either. Not once in scripture do we hear Peter say he was sorry, none, BEFORE Jesus died. We see a sorry apostole when he leaves the boat to swim to him, but even then, he is asked 3 times, if he loves him, but we are not privey to any “I’m sorry Lord”. They were hiding when Jesus first appeared to them behind locked doors. I think in some ways, Judas knew he helped kill Jesus, but didn’t understand it was going to happen, no matter what. Jesus could have gotten out of it at any time, that just started the ball rolling.
Judas, did what many, unfortunately do in deep despair, kill themselves, and the fact he didn’t understand Jesus, was shared by the men that didn’t stay with him before, during and after his death. If Judas said, “Im sorry Lord” before he let the rope go, we wont know any more than we will with Peter. He had a second chance and much grace that came after the resurrection. I can only hope that we can learn how much Christ can forgive, when he forgave them for being so scared and doubting. Many don’t realize there isn’t scripture for any forgiveness conversation with Jesus and the aposotles. Actions do speak louder than words though.
I think we all believe at times, we can’t be forgiven, some go to confession for the same sin, many times, but most of us don’t suffer from severe depression. As the priest said, dispair is the worst thing, it robs us of the freedom of knowing God loves us…may we all never fall that deep into the pit and may God, who knows our mental state, welcome our misguided brothers and sisters after death.
I pray for my friend, who after her husband killed himself years ago (20) was treated horribly by our church and never returned. I’m glad they have understood the psychology of suicide better, but many, many people have been hurt in the interim.