Peter and the rock

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In my discussions with a co-worker on Matthew 16:18 I was holding my own until he said his pastor gave him this bit of advice and he handed me a piece of paper with the following on it:
“Jesus is the rock on which the church is built
The truth is that the only foundation is Jesus. The only rock of truth is Jesus Christ and that we, as his redeemed, need to keep our eyes on him. We are to look to no one else as the foundation, the source, or the hope on which the church is built. The Church is built upon Jesus, not Peter.
“For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ,” (1 Cor. 3:11).”
So I am posting here in hopes of getting an answer to this statement.
Hand your friend a piece of paper with the following on it:

Protestant Scholars Agree: Peter is the Rock

Here are five of the more than two dozen quotes I have from heavyweight Protestant scholars regarding the identity of “the rock” in Matthew 16:18.

W.F. Albright and C.S. Mann

“[Peter] is not a name, but an appellation and a play on words. There is no evidence of Peter or Kephas as a name before Christian times….Peter as Rock will be the foundation of the future community. Jesus, not quoting the Old Testament, here uses Aramaic, not Hebrew, and so uses the only Aramaic word that would serve his purpose. In view of the background of v. 19…**one must dismiss as confessional interpretation any attempt to see this rock as meaning the faith, or the messianic confession, of Peter. **“To deny the pre-eminent position of Peter,” Albright says, “among the disciples or in the early Christian community is a denial of the evidence. The interest in Peter’s failures and vacillations does not detract from this pre-eminence, rather it emphasizes it. Had Peter been a lesser figure, his behavior would have been of far less consequence. Precisely because Peter is pre-eminent and is the foundation stone of the Church that his mistakes are in a sense so important, but his mistakes never correspond to his teachings as the Prince of the Apostles.” (The Anchor Bible; Matthew [Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday & Co., 1971], 195)

Peter as the Rock will be the foundation of the future community, the church. Jesus here uses Aramaic and so only the Aramaic word which would serve His purpose. In view of the background in verse 19, one must dismiss as confessional interpretation any attempt to see this rock as the faith or the confession of Peter. (Ibid.)

Donald A. Carson (Baptist)

“On the basis of the distinction between ‘petros’ . . . and ‘petra’ . . . , many have attempted to avoid identifying Peter as the rock on which Jesus builds his church. Peter is a mere ‘stone,’ it is alleged; but Jesus himself is the ‘rock’ . . . Others adopt some other distinction . . . Yet if it were not for Protestant reactions against extremes of Roman Catholic interpretation, it is doubtful whether many would have taken ‘rock’ to be anything or anyone other than Peter . . . The Greek makes the distinction between ‘petros’ and ‘petra’ simply because it is trying to preserve the pun, and in Greek the feminine ‘petra’ could not very well serve as a masculine name . . . Had Matthew wanted to say no more than that Peter was a stone in contrast with Jesus the Rock, the more common word would have been ‘lithos’ (‘stone’ of almost any size). Then there would have been no pun - and that is just the point! . . . In this passage Jesus is the builder of the church and it would be a strange mixture of metaphors that also sees him within the same clauses as its foundation . . .” (Expositor’s Bible Commentary, [Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1984], vol. 8: Matthew, Mark, Luke (Matthew: D.A. Carson), 368)

Oscar Cullman (Protestant Scholar)

“But what does Jesus mean when He says: ‘On this rock I will build my church’? The idea of the Reformers that He is referring to the faith of Peter is quite inconceivable in vew of the probably different setting of the story. For there is no reference here to the faith of Peter. Rather, the parallelism of ‘thou art rock’ and ‘on this rock I will build’ shows that the second rock can only be the same as the first. It is thus evident that Jesus is referring to Peter, to whom he has given the name Rock. He appoints Peter, the impulsive, enthusiastic, but not persevering man in the circle, to be the foundation of His ecclesia [church]. To this extent Roman Catholic exegesis is right and all Protestant attempts to evade this interpretation are to be rejected.” (Oscar Cullman, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, (ed. Gerhard Kittel and Gerhard Friedrich), [Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1968], 6:108).

Donald Hagner (Contemporary Evangelical)

"The frequent attempts that have been made, largely in the past, to deny [that Peter is the rock] in favor of the view that the confession itself is the rock . . . seem to be largely motivated by Protestant prejudice against a passage that is used by the Roman Catholics to justify the papacy"
(Word Biblical Commentary 33b:470).

David Hill (Presbyterian)

“It is on Peter himself, the confessor of his Messiahship, that Jesus will build the Church…Attempts to interpret the ‘rock’ as something other than Peter in person (e.g., his faith, the truth revealed to him) are due to Protestant bias, and introduce to the statement a degree of subtlety which is highly unlikely.” (The Gospel of Matthew, New Century Bible Commentary [Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1972], 261)
 
If he is not referring to Peter(Simon) as the rock. Then why is he no longer calling him Simon later on and he is calling him Peter?

Or do i have that twisted?

I guess what im getting at is if the argument is Jesus built the church and what he meant by that was the ledge or rock they were standing on then that would mean he was not referring to Peter at all. and if that was the case then Peter would have been named Simon throughout the old testament…correct?
 
If he is not referring to Peter(Simon) as the rock. Then why is he no longer calling him Simon later on and he is calling him Peter?

Or do i have that twisted?

I guess what im getting at is if the argument is Jesus built the church and what he meant by that was the ledge or rock they were standing on then that would mean he was not referring to Peter at all. and if that was the case then Peter would have been named Simon throughout the old testament…correct?
Should read throughout the New testament…

This is a good point.

Peace
James
 
In my discussions with a co-worker on Matthew 16:18 I was holding my own until he said his pastor gave him this bit of advice and he handed me a piece of paper with the following on it:
“Jesus is the rock on which the church is built
The truth is that the only foundation is Jesus. The only rock of truth is Jesus Christ and that we, as his redeemed, need to keep our eyes on him. We are to look to no one else as the foundation, the source, or the hope on which the church is built. The Church is built upon Jesus, not Peter.
“For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ,” (1 Cor. 3:11).”
So I am posting here in hopes of getting an answer to this statement.
Maybe you should pay attention to what Christ said instead of your friend or his pastor. I always hear it’s Catholics that put man’s teaching above God’s but your post is an example of NON catholics ignoring Christ’s Word in preference of a pastor or a coworker?!
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
That’s plain enough for anyone to understand, including your pastor and coworker. It’s personal about Peter, and Catholics are right to say the church was built upon Peter. Peter’s faithful statement was about Christ being the Messiah was key to receiving this honor so it’s fair to say that the honor was based on faith, but it’s still true that Peter was personally made into the rock of the Chruch, the cornerstone.

Your friend and his pastor are trying to deflect things into a word game. They can’t deny what Christ said about the church being built on Peter so they just ignore Christ altogether and deflect into something that Paul said about a foundation, and pretend it’s contradicts Christ AND that Paul somehow trumps Christ in this presumed contradiction.

Christ says “rock” and Paul says “foundation” and for that reason we’re supposed to ignore Christ or give preference to Paul?! Sure, IF you’re predisposed against catholicism for some reason, if you’re big concern in life is to prove catholic theology wrong. You and your friend and maybe his pastor are being sucked into a silly, childish, centuries old word game.

How about telling your friend and his pastor to NOT automatically degenerate into some worn out old anti catholic argument and just think on their own for a minute or two.

Peter is the rock on which the church is built and God is the foundation on which the rock (Peter) AND the church rests…what’s so hard about that? 🙂
 
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