Philippines Bill Mandates Only Two Children, May Force Abortions

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Is this China all over again?
Philippines Bill Mandates Only Two Children, May Force Abortions
by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
January 6, 2006

**Manilla, Philippines (LifeNews.com) – **Pro-life advocates in the Philippines are greatly concerned about legislation coming up for a vote there later this month that would implement a rule prohibiting familles from having more than two children. The idea conjures up images for forced abortions and sterilizations that occur in China.

Just before Christmas, a bill was introduced in the Philippine legislature which, if passed, will impose a two-child limit on families. A final vote is expected on January 16.

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Pia de Solenni of the Family Research Council said, “This is nothing but a campaign against women and their health.”
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“Rather than allow women to make their own decisions about their families, advocates of the two-child policy presume that women aren’t capable of making their own decisions,” she explained. “In addition, abortion and some contraceptives can pose substantial health risks for women, but this policy would sacrifice women’s health for a flawed ideology.”
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These quotes worry me. They are all true, but seem to make this soley a women’s rights issue. What about the rights of the child or the father. The child’s rights are more endagered than the mother’s.
 
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SEBASTIANMARTIN:
These quotes worry me. They are all true, but seem to make this soley a women’s rights issue. What about the rights of the child or the father. The child’s rights are more endagered than the mother’s.
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It’s time to turn their manipulation back on them. :mad: They want to argue from a woman’s right’s issue, give it right back to them.
 
I am curious: as someone who has a degree in political science, the first thing I ask when I see a story like this is: how much of a chance does this bill have of passing? How much support does it have in the Philipine legislature? Does the president support it? These are very important factors, as anyone can introduce a bill to advocate anything; the real issue is, how much support does it have? Obviously, we should pray that it doesn’t pass; if anyone has answers to these questions, please post them here.
 
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I am curious: as someone who has a degree in political science, the first thing I ask when I see a story like this is: how much of a chance does this bill have of passing? How much support does it have in the Philipine legislature? Does the president support it? These are very important factors, as anyone can introduce a bill to advocate anything; the real issue is, how much support does it have? Obviously, we should pray that it doesn’t pass; if anyone has answers to these questions, please post them here.
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I don’t agree that it matters how much support it has. A nation that is 87% Catholic that treats this lightly will rapidly become 0% Catholic. Look at how Ireland is going. Apathy is the tool of the devil. Anytime anyone promotes anything like this, Catholics need to be out in FORCE letting the world know we won’t stand for it, even if the odds of it passing are slim.
 
You are obviously missing the point of what I am asking. Of course Catholics should be against this type of law, and should be out in force against it-I said that we need to pray that it doesn’t pass. But the amount of support that the bill has in the legislature has a great deal to do with whether the law passes or not-that’s something you should care about. For example, if only 10% of legislators support it, then it won’t pass. However, if 40-50% of them support it, plus the president, then there’s a lot more to worry about. See what I mean?
 
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Onuphrius:
You are obviously missing the point of what I am asking. Of course Catholics should be against this type of law, and should be out in force against it-I said that we need to pray that it doesn’t pass. But the amount of support that the bill has in the legislature has a great deal to do with whether the law passes or not-that’s something you should care about. For example, if only 10% of legislators support it, then it won’t pass. However, if 40-50% of them support it, plus the president, then there’s a lot more to worry about. See what I mean?
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I do see what you are saying, and i know you don’t want it to pass. It would be good to see how much support it has and have reassurance that it wouldn’t pass. My point is that while the reassurance would be good, we should react as though it has 90% support so that there are no fence sitters and in the future people will realize it is futile to try to introduce such legislation. So our points are not mutually exclusive after all. 🙂
 
-That is only one part of the issue- even if it is defeated (please, Lord), it disturbs me that this type of legislation is even being SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED in a “free” and “democratic” society.
 
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-That is only one part of the issue- even if it is defeated (please, Lord), it disturbs me that this type of legislation is even being SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED in a “free” and “democratic” society.
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It is led by those communist partylist representatives. They won’t stop until that Bill is not passed. If Fidel Ramos, a birth control, pills advocate comes back as the new Prime Minister of this country, my o my, who will stop this terrible menace from occuring?

I thought God’s plan for the Philippines is to bring Christianity to the rest of Asia?

Who will be our leader now that Cardinal Sin is gone?
 
Thanks for the info. I just signed the petition. Does anyone have any information on how much support this bill is expected to have on its second reading? I am certainly praying that it doesn’t pass.
 
This was taken from the link I posted earlier.
“Children from these families shall have preference in the grant of scholarships at the tertiary level taking into consideration the financial need and academic aptitude of the grantees.”

Another controversial aspect of the bill is the creation of new criminal offenses. Any health care worker who withholds or provides incorrect information about “reproductive health including the right to informed choice and access to a full range of legal, medically-safe and effective family planning methods” will be breaking the law.

Anyone who refuses to provide services similarly is committing an offense, although there is an exception in case of ethical or religious objection - as long as the person objecting refers the patient to another service provider near at hand.

The offenses carry prison terms of up to six months and the option of a fine."

If you explore some of the other info on the same link you get the gist that many legislators are listening to this absurdity to the detriment of a population where 40% are poor.

We have to pray very hard for the defeat of this bill!
 
I also just signed the petition and distributed the links to my friendster bulletin. you can do that too!
 
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