Philosophy help please!

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I wasn’t sure which category to put this in. I’m taking a MetaPhysics class and it’s kind of confusing for me. We are delving into the theories realism, austere nominalism, and trope theory. I’m having a hard time understanding the concepts. If there’s someone here who knows some Metaphysics and would like to help me out and show me how this all relates to our faith, I’d very much appreciate it. I have heard it said the Catholic theology is very philosophical. I’d appreciate any help…
 
If you could define (and maybe that’s your question, in which case I’m not much a help) realism, austere nominalism, and trope theory, I might be able to help. I’m usually quick to understand concepts when I know the terms. Or perhaps someone more knowledgeable will come along…:o
 
given that you’re talking about tropes, i assume you’re dealing specifically with the question of universals or properties.

properties are, basically, attributes of things, or the various ways things can be. and the “question” of properties includes not only concerns as to what things actually count as properties, but also the question as to what kind of thing a “property” is.

as far as the former is concerned, though there is (probably) unanimity among thinkers that being blue or taller than are core examples of properties, controversy exists with regards to examples such as being an apple and so-called ‘disjunctive’ properties, such as being sharp or the last king of france.

the categories of realism, nominalism, and trope-theory are ontological categories, which is to say that they are names for points of view on the kind of thing that properties are.

realism (as i understand it - there are often different ways of using these names) proposes that properties are abstract objects, which is to say that they are not unlike platonic forms: non-corporeal, independently existing, and (traditionally, anyway, thought to be) atemporal (outside of time), and acausal (unable to stand in causal relations to or with anything else). on this view, individual things instantiate or exemplify properties - my grey shirt exemplifies the abstract object greyness, which nonetheless exists independently both of my grey shirt, but also all grey things.

nominalists believe that there are no such things as properties, and that it only seems as though there are as an artifiact of our language: in the end, there are only the words we use to describe things - so-called “properties” are just uses the same word to describe many separate things, and the fact, for example, that both dog and blue are nouns does not allows us to conclude that both dogs and blueness exist in the same way.

trope-theory is a middle-way between what some philosophers consider the ontological extravagance and obscurity of realism, and the explanatory wasteland of nominalism (i.e. some philosophers think that realists believe that there are too many things, but nominalists think there are not enough).

trope theorists believe that there are properties, but they are just (sets of) particulars, such that the property blue is simply the set or group of all blue things - the group of things that exactly resemble each other with respect to their color. (as opposed to the realist, who would say that two things having the same color is to say that both exemplify or instantiate the same property; and the nominalist who says that we’re just using the same word).

there are many variants of each of these theories, but these are the basics.

a good online resource is the stanford encyclopedia of philosophy:

plato.stanford.edu/

you can look for the entries on “proiperties” and “tropes”, for starters.

good luck.
 
trope theorists believe that there are properties, but they are just (sets of) particulars, such that the property blue is simply the set or group of all blue things - the group of things that exactly resemble each other with respect to their color.
I think you are confusing trope theorist with class nominalism (such as espoused by Quine and D. Lewis). Class nominalists think that properties just are the set of particulars. Trope theorist hold a different view.

Trope are suppose to be some type of elementary aspect of an object. I don’t have time to get into it (it’s kind of hard to explain anyway), but let’s say you have three lollipops (I’m taking this from a paper of the trope-theorist D. C. Williams). Two lollipops are red, and one is brown. Well, each of the red lollipops have a red trope. The two red lollipops are not sharing a trope, but they both have their own red “trope” that is identical. So, their similarity in being red is due to having similar tropes. Anyway, I’ve got to go to, of all places, my metaphysics class 😃

PerhapsI can comment more later.

-BT
 
I think you are confusing trope theorist with class nominalism (such as espoused by Quine and D. Lewis). Class nominalists think that properties just are the set of particulars. Trope theorist hold a different view.

Trope are suppose to be some type of elementary aspect of an object. I don’t have time to get into it (it’s kind of hard to explain anyway), but let’s say you have three lollipops (I’m taking this from a paper of the trope-theorist D. C. Williams). Two lollipops are red, and one is brown. Well, each of the red lollipops have a red trope. The two red lollipops are not sharing a trope, but they both have their own red “trope” that is identical. So, their similarity in being red is due to having similar tropes. Anyway, I’ve got to go to, of all places, my metaphysics class 😃

PerhapsI can comment more later.

-BT
actually, there are different varieties of trope-theory; i was describing classic trope theory, in order to avoid the details of the various differences.

there’s trope cluster theory, something that might be called (and in fact is by some) kernel trope theory. and so on.

check out the entry on tropes in the stanford encyclopedia of philosophy:

plato.stanford.edu/entries/tropes/

of course, the traditional ontological categories are often divided along different lines by different people and in different areas, such that what you’re calling “class nominalism” might be almost indistinguishable from classic trope theory according to some descriptions.
 
trope theorists believe that there are properties, but they are just (sets of) particulars, such that the property blue is simply the set or group of all blue things - the group of things that exactly resemble each other with respect to their color.
There are variations of trope theories, but trope theorists don’t believe that properties are just the set of the particulars. Class nominalists believe that properties are just the set of particulars. W.V.O. Quine taught this (or something similar).

More on this later…I have to finish writing a paper.

-BT
 
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