Philosophy used against Arianism

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I know the basics, but does anyone know some of the in depth philosophical arguments used against Arianism? In other words, arguments stating that Jesus is truly of the same substance as God?
 
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I know the basics, but does anyone know some of the in depth philosophical arguments used against Arianism? In other words, arguments stating that Jesus is truly of the same substance as God?
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We can prove by the light of human reason that God exists, and that God is Existence in Scholastic Philosophy, in the study of Ontology, the study of Being as Being. But to know the identity of this God, we must turn to revelation which identifies Jesus Christ as being this God. When Jesus said "I knew you before you came to be,for I am. Meaning I always existed, and I am who am, meaning "I Am Existence The Uncaused Cause had to have existence as it’s nature, it had to subsist, needing no other cause for it’s existence. Jesus identified Himself as this Uncaused cause when He said “I Am Who Am” making reference to Moses and the Burning Bush, and at other times in the New testament.
 
Jesus also said to Philip "…Me and the Father are one, if you see Me, you see the Father. The Church teaches that Jesus is the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, being One with the Father and the Holy Spirit, He is the perfect reflection of the Father. At the Baptism of Jesus, the Holy Spirit appeared as a Dove, and a voice was heard, saying “This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased” The manifestation of the Blessed Trinity was made. How could Jesus be the Son of the Father and not be God? He was the begotten Son of God, the Father beholding Himself, begot His Son, and the love of the Father for His Son and the Son’s love for the Father begot the Holy Spirit There are Three Divine Persons in one God.
 
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I know the basics, but does anyone know some of the in depth philosophical arguments used against Arianism? In other words, arguments stating that Jesus is truly of the same substance as God?
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I think any such arguments would have to be based on Revelation, which is why they would have used Scripture. Other than the fact that any begotten son is of the same substance as his father.
 
God’s existence can be proven, but I don’t think it can be proven that He is the substance of existence or goodness. When we are told that God is infinite goodness, I think it’s legit to interpret this in that God is infinitely good and is necessary to our contingency. Philosophically trying to argue that He is the substance of Goodness itself runs into a dead end, IMHO. I know that Aristotle liked to say that the better something is the more being it has. I think Eastern thinkers (Chinese, Buddhist) would disagree and it sounds like Heidegger anyway. “Most being” is not the same as “most meaningful”
 
I think the OP is looking for arguments against Arianism on whether God can make a lesser God that had essential necessity
 
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