Plural marriage

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Well, I’ve also read that one of the likely practical reasons for polygamy, and specifically, polygyny, in Muslim countries at least in the Middle East, is that the region had so many wars back then, that men got killed in battle at a very high rate, so there was a very unequal female : male ratio, leaving many women without any means of support.

However, though certainly there’s still a lot of war going in that region, I doubt the male-female ratio is so bad these days that it justifies polygyny still being a practice. And it is not a justification I have heard from most Muslims themselves.

Although, unlike the FLDS, polygyny is not considered a requirement for Muslims, just an option, and comes with the caveat the husband must be able to financially support each wife equally, so only the richest people can afford more than one anyway. Most Muslims I know personally are of South Asia or Indonesian background and seem to see polygamy as an old fashioned outdated custom that’s just not relevant to their own lives. But on the other hand there was some self-selection going on, I assume they knew when they immigrated to the US that polygamy was illegal.

Also, regarding polygamy as an alternative to abandoning the first wife, I can think of a really disturbing book I flipped through once in an airport that had a little bookstore. It was about a little girl growing up with her parents, siblings, and a mentally disabled woman who she was told was a distant relative of her mother’s - and that might even have been true, but it was not the whole story. She later found out that the woman was actually her father’s ex-wife, who was in a terrible accident that left her brain-damaged.

Now I’m not sure what the exact circumstances were here, I didn’t actually buy the book and I had to leave the bookstore to catch my flight. It seemed that the girl’s father was still married to the first wife at the time of the accident, and felt obligated to take care of her for the rest of her life in her own household But apparently, NOT obligated to actually stay faithful to her.

The girl noticed that the woman, while barely verbal, seemed very sad and unhappy all the time. Well, of course she’d be! I felt horrible for this poor woman, assuming she still had some memory of her prior life with her husband, to be forced to live with her ex-husband, new wife, and their kids, and be unable to do anything about her lot in life, due to her disability.

And since the little girl herself still saw her father as a great guy for not shipping her off to an institution, she was apparently forced to deal with everyone around her expecting her to be grateful that her ex-husband was still taking care of her.

Now this wasn’t technically polygamy as the guy divorced the first wife before marrying the second one, and maybe it was still better for the first wife than being institutionalized, but I certainly wouldn’t consider it an ideal state of affairs to aspire to.

ETA: I realized I forgot to tell you the book was in the NON Fiction / Memoir section meaning a real person actually suffered in this situation.
I’ve heard explanations like this for the basis for polygamy as well, and they may provide the reason it has existed in some societies to some extent, but I frankly feel that it’s just a wealthy male thing, and therefore a rationalization of vice.

I almost hate to say that (as a male), as it sounds like I’m tapping into a feminist theory of the nature of the world, which I don’t mean to, but here I think that is the excuse. Most polygamist societies anyone can think of are pretty male dominated and it just seems like a means of acquiring a bunch of sex partners. I’d note that at least early Islam not only accepted polygamy, but (slave) concubines as well. In Medieval Christian societies you tend to find that nearly every monarch had a bunch of (fully illicit) mistresses. The point is, I think, is that societies that accept polygamy are pretty dominated by men of means who can afford to take more than their fair share of the available, and even unavailable, women.

My apologies for coming into this thread late. I actually heard a Baptist argue that polygamy is licensed by the Bible the other day which so took me off guard I didn’t have a ready response to why its not (and I’m sure that’s not the general Baptist belief). The same fellow had a lot of odd ideas about topics in this area, so I think he was mostly rationalizing his own views, but its such an unusual view to come across from a Christian the response didn’t immediately occur to me.
 
The husband views himself as super intelligent so if I use the word “wrong” or “evil” in any sentence, the conversation will be over.
Are you allowed to use the word “selfish?”

Seriously, I would try to talk to your niece. I would just ask her if she realizes the harmful effect on her children. Definitely not in front of her husband.
Whether she’s putting up with a mistress to keep her husband, or is part of a menage a trois, it can’t hurt to remind her that the children are vulnerable and more important than keeping adults happy and sexually fulfilled.

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If you don’t feel you can get through to these people about the relationship then I would focus on the children.
 
To bring the woman to a family event is pretty bold. How did he introduce her?

I am pretty naive about things like this and lwould have thought she was a long lost college friend who needeed a place to stay or something.

And them for him not to let his kids greet you, tells me that he feels he is not doing anything wrong, and that you did something against him…

An intelligent person would know this is wrong, and not flaunt it, or expect acceptance.So there may be a missing piece.

I would talk to your niece and get the complete story.
 
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