Poll: Was Jesus' skin color one of the following?

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Jesus, as He walked among us, due to where He was born and into what race of people was more then likely of olive skin tone.

But our Risen Lord, and this is just my personal opinion, is what ever color He needs to be when addressing a particular group of people.

But in the end, does not really matter what color His skin is.
 
I like to take a vote on what Jesus skin color was. I believe he had olive skin and a middle eastern Semitic appearance rather than Caucasian or African.

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Native Americans are genetically closest kin to Asians.
Off topic, but of passing interest. Actually, it depends on what kinds of Asians you’re talking about. North Chinese DNA is closer to Caucasian, taken as a whole, than it is to South Chinese or any other group we refer to as “Asian” or “Oriental”. Some, including those ethnic groups in China and eastern Siberia that seem most closely related to Native Americans, appear to have some Turkic influences (though the reverse could be true). Japanese are virtually a genetic pool all their own, but loosely akin to both Korean and Pacific Islander (e.g. Filipino) The Ainu of Japan seem to be akin to Australian Aborigines. Most orientals can quickly distinguish among the various Oriental groups, in the same sort of way Caucasians can distinguish between, say, most Sicilians and most Swedes.

Nobody knows what a “glorified body” is, exactly, but one can posit some of the characteristics, from what we know. Our Lady appeared in Mexico as an ethnic Aztec. She appeared in France as ultra-European. One might conclude that Jesus, like her, can have the appearance He chooses to have, but with a unifying sameness of what is most important. Interestingly, and a bit off topic, but related, one has to wonder about Jesus’ ability to walk through a door. Is this a suspension of the laws of physics or is it a perfect alignment with them. In other words, since most of atomic structure is actually empty space, is a glorified body capable of so organizing its atoms that, like they tell us some galaxies might be capable of doing, it might pass through another body without colliding with anything? Is a glorified body perhaps able to be of any apparent age; time no longer being a constraint in any manner? But if, say, a glorified body could take on any age appearance, might that appearance be beautiful, no matter what? Everyone has known, for example, some octegenarian or other who, despite his/her age, was somehow quite attractive, despite our preoccupation with youth. When we try to think it through, it always seems there is some kind of “inner quality” that causes it. Is it possible that something about the glorification causes the person to “register” as beautiful, no matter what? Is it the “true self”, perhaps, as God wants our “true selves” to be? Is it also possible that a glorified body is, in fact, all of its possible ages and “racial” DNA potential, all at once, but being able to choose which one is manifest to the observer, in the same sort of way I might manifest one aspect of my personality to one person, but a different one to another? If, as some geneticists tell us, there is truly nothing totally alien from one human DNA set to another, (which is why we can produce fertile offspring, regardless of race) Jesus could perhaps appear as a black man and truly be a black man, while simultaneously being every other “race” there is, but not appearing so to the selected observer, unless, perhaps, that observer is also in a glorified body. Might it be that a glorified human would be totally “integrated”, body and soul, so that what one “knows” and what one “sees” are not different, and “knowing” that Jesus is all ages and all races might, to such a person, be the same as “seeing” Him in that manner. Fascinating stuff, to me, anyway. When you think about it, things theological could be (and almost certainly are) far more astounding than anything any science fiction writer could ever come up with.
 
Our Lady appeared in Mexico as an ethnic Aztec.
That’s the common interpretation of the Guadalupe image but some of the books I’ve read about it say that Our Lady did not actually appear dressed as an Aztec (since pictorial evidence shows that garments worn by females is different from what Mary wears in the Guadalupana) but perhaps what she may have looked like wearing Jewish clothing 2000 years ago, which makes it more strange (and wondrous).
 
Off topic, but of passing interest. Actually, it depends on what kinds of Asians you’re talking about. North Chinese DNA is closer to Caucasian, taken as a whole, than it is to South Chinese or any other group we refer to as “Asian” or “Oriental”. Some, including those ethnic groups in China and eastern Siberia that seem most closely related to Native Americans, appear to have some Turkic influences (though the reverse could be true). Japanese are virtually a genetic pool all their own, but loosely akin to both Korean and Pacific Islander (e.g. Filipino) The Ainu of Japan seem to be akin to Australian Aborigines. Most orientals can quickly distinguish among the various Oriental groups, in the same sort of way Caucasians can distinguish between, say, most Sicilians and most Swedes.
Fascinating. Thank you for the information. Your entire post certainly challenges the entire concept of race, doesn’t it?
 
As an interesting note: Most of the early icons (and in fact most of the Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Icons, period) show Jesus as a medium to dark olive complexion man of obvious semitic descent, with long hair and a well trimmed beard.

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As an interesting note: Most of the early icons (and in fact most of the Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Icons, period) show Jesus as a medium to dark olive complexion man of obvious semitic descent, with long hair and a well trimmed beard.

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Or Greek, perhaps. You have to remember that Greeks, then and now, tend to be dark-complected, which is why, for example, dead warriors in the Iliad are described as being yellow, not white, as would be the case with Northern Europeans. But it would probably be a big mistake for anyone to make hard classifications of “Semitic” peoples, 'European" or others, notwithstanding that peoples in certain locales TEND to share certain features. DNA testing shows that the people presently in Palestine are a mixture of all kinds of things. Physically, people in the Middle East vary a lot, from the very pigmented, very “semitic-looking” Saudis to the many fair, “European-looking” people in Palestine and Syria. No doubt that’s thanks to the enormous numbers of peoples of all groups that have swirled about the Middle East from time immemorial. It’s interesting to look at Italian Renaissance statuary and painting. Some of the people depicted are “idealized”, in the sense that they are made to look like what Greek models looked like centuries earlier, and we can’t conclude that they necessarily resembled the locals at the time. The Romans did the same thing; sometimes, but not always. During the Renaissance, there were so many excellent artists in Tuscany that a person might conclude from Renaissance art that most Italians of the time looked like Tuscans, but they didn’t. Not then or now. There were artistic conventions at work as well. I saw an amusing set of very old Italian-made Stations of the Cross, in which all the “bad guys” look like Sicilians or Neopolitans and all the “good guys”, including Jesus, look like Lombards or Alpines. Given the disdain Northern Italians have had, for ages, for Italian southerners, (it’s reciprocated. I have heard southern Italians refer to northerners, disparagingly, as “those Germans”) it was probably a Northern Italian artist expressing the prejudices and artistic conventions of his time and place.

So, while very old Greek representations of Jesus should be taken as suggestive of His appearance, it would not necessarily be a correct conclusion.
 
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The truthful Prophet Muhammad Khatamun Nabiyyeen has mentioned two complexions/featured of Jesus as if it were features of two different persons, one for the **Jesus s/o Mary **in his first coming, and the second for symbolic Jesus who would be **Second Coming of Jesus **in the form of PromisedMessiah 1835-1908, as one person cannot have two complexions/features:

1.Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet said, “I saw Moses, Jesus and Abraham (on the night of my Ascension to the heavens). Jesus was of red complexion, curly hair and a broad chest. Moses was of brown complexion, straight hair and tall stature as if he was from the people of Az-Zutt.” Bukhari (Book #55, Hadith #648)

2.Narrated Abdullah: The Prophet mentioned the Massiah Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one eyed while Messsiah, Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka’ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Kaba. I asked, ‘Who is this?’ They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.’ Behind him I saw a man who had very curly hair and was blind in the right eye, resembling Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel) in appearance. He was placing his hands on the shoulders of a person while performing Tawaf around the Ka’ba. I asked, 'Who is this? 'They replied, ‘The Masih, Ad-Dajjal*.’ " Bukhari (Book #55, Hadith #649)
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The truthful Prophet Muhammad Khatamun Nabiyyeen has mentioned two complexions/featured of Jesus as if it were features of two different persons, one for the **Jesus s/o Mary **in his first coming, and the second for symbolic Jesus who would be **Second Coming of Jesus **in the form of PromisedMessiah 1835-1908, as one person cannot have two complexions/features:

1.Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet said, “I saw Moses, Jesus and Abraham (on the night of my Ascension to the heavens). Jesus was of red complexion, curly hair and a broad chest. Moses was of brown complexion, straight hair and tall stature as if he was from the people of Az-Zutt.” Bukhari (Book #55, Hadith #648)

2.Narrated Abdullah: The Prophet mentioned the Massiah Ad-Dajjal in front of the people saying, Allah is not one eyed while Messsiah, Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape. While sleeping near the Ka’ba last night, I saw in my dream a man of brown color the best one can see amongst brown color and his hair was long that it fell between his shoulders. His hair was lank and water was dribbling from his head and he was placing his hands on the shoulders of two men while circumambulating the Kaba. I asked, ‘Who is this?’ They replied, 'This is Jesus, son of Mary.’ Behind him I saw a man who had very curly hair and was blind in the right eye, resembling Ibn Qatan (i.e. an infidel) in appearance. He was placing his hands on the shoulders of a person while performing Tawaf around the Ka’ba. I asked, 'Who is this? 'They replied, ‘The Masih, Ad-Dajjal*.’ " Bukhari (Book #55, Hadith #649)
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“Truthful” and " Prophet Muhammed whoever" is a contradiction in terms!! There are no muslim prophets because the entire religion is false!!
 
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