Powerful Photos Allied Troops Storming Normandy Turning Tide WW2

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On 6 June 1944, Operation Overlord – aimed at liberating German-occupied western Europe – commenced as Allied forces stormed the beaches of Normandy, France, on D-Day.

British, US and Canadian soldiers descended on the beaches in an operation that turned the tide of the Second World War against the Nazis, marking the beginning of the end of the conflict. IBTimes UK looks back at this momentous event, 72 years ago

If it came to that, could we perform this act again today?
 
Monte_RCMS said:
If it came to that, could we perform this act again today?
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Probably not Monte…God forbid that Europe is ever overrun like that again, and the very nature of warfare has changed.

Eternal rest grant unto them O Lord and may perpetual light shine upon them.
May their souls and all the souls of the faithful departed rest in peace.
 
It could be done but likely will not be done. Various factors have changed:

Satellite recon

Activation of manned, high mach number, high altitude, photo recon aircraft with the latest electronic countermeasures.

Drone recon, and armed drones.

ICBMs capable of being launched from air, land and sea.

The target.

1940:

“In the 1940 presidential election campaign Roosevelt promised to keep America out of the war. He stated, “I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again; your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.” Nevertheless, FDR wanted to support Britain and believed the United States should serve as a “great arsenal of democracy.” Churchill pleaded “Give us the tools and we’ll finish the job.” In January 1941, following up on his campaign pledge and the prime minister’s appeal for arms, Roosevelt proposed to Congress a new military aid bill.”

World War I was still on the minds of many.

Ed
 
There should be an operation like that on the shores of Syria to turn the tide in the war against the Islamic State. They need to be defeated like Nazi Germany was.
 
anon67074017 said:
There should be an operation like that on the shores of Syria to turn the tide in the war against the Islamic State. They need to be defeated like Nazi Germany was.
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I agree, but with the ‘war on terror’, there will NEVER be a ‘V day’, even if we manage to kill off all the top leaders and 95% of the fighters, the rest of them are not going to just give up and head home, admit defeat, and sign the treaty.

Instead they will continue to plan attacks, recruit more fighters, replace the leaders with more violent people, etc This is basically a war that will go on forever. The Nazi and Japanese soldiers were fighting because they were being told to, the terrorists today are fighting because it is something they truly believe in to be just and right. They are instilling the same values and beliefs in the children being born over there today and they will be the ones fighting when they get old enough.

Ive said it before, this ‘war on terror’ will go on until a larger threat comes along, like an imminent asteroid collision, major financial collapse, or something equally global.
 
The problem with terrorists, unlike the Germans and Japanese, is they look like anybody, can be anybody.

After studying military history for years, this is the way wars will be fought. Of course, new technologies can, and are, being applied.

Ed
 
Monte_RCMS said:
On 6 June 1944, Operation Overlord – aimed at liberating German-occupied western Europe – commenced as Allied forces stormed the beaches of Normandy, France, on D-Day.

British, US and Canadian soldiers descended on the beaches in an operation that turned the tide of the Second World War against the Nazis, marking the beginning of the end of the conflict. IBTimes UK looks back at this momentous event, 72 years ago

If it came to that, could we perform this act again today?
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Not as long as American youth are hiding in their Safe Space 🤷
 
mikekle said:
I agree, but with the ‘war on terror’, there will NEVER be a ‘V day’, even if we manage to kill off all the top leaders and 95% of the fighters, the rest of them are not going to just give up and head home, admit defeat, and sign the treaty.

Instead they will continue to plan attacks, recruit more fighters, replace the leaders with more violent people, etc This is basically a war that will go on forever. The Nazi and Japanese soldiers were fighting because they were being told to, the terrorists today are fighting because it is something they truly believe in to be just and right. They are instilling the same values and beliefs in the children being born over there today and they will be the ones fighting when they get old enough.

Ive said it before, this ‘war on terror’ will go on until a larger threat comes along, like an imminent asteroid collision, major financial collapse, or something equally global.
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The SS was fighting for what they believed in. They actually thought they were forces of light against darkness in a holy war. They surrendered though. The terrorists can surrender.
 
What is remarkable is that in the 40’s there was dialogue between nations, and still the nation reps managed to fly to meetings with allies and the undecided. After the war, the nations, with good intentions, determined they needed a central meeting place to resolve issues, the UN.

The irony is that nations today no longer listen to their own governing bodies, never mind seeking the thoughts of the UN. Lobby groups hold sway, and the media steer opinion. They cater to the whims of their militants or big business. Hypocrisy is no longer something to correct, it has become a benign part of the nation’s character trait. The nations of the UN vote a unanimous protest, but the truant nation will give no ear to it’s decision. Technology has introduced convenience into their weapons, and now they no longer need to look into the eyes of those they kill and maim.

Thank God what can’t be hidden is policy. On a principle, the nation may justify it’s aggression against another nation or individual, or try to portray a united charitable front, but the world eventually sees the inconsistency of it’s application throughout the world. For instance the aiding nation may claim it’s works of charity in the world, but there is a pattern that develops. In order for the nation in need to qualify for the largest portion, it now needs to possess a wealth of natural resources.

Haiti comes to mind. After WW2, a helping North American nation with supplies sets a goal to traverse a vast Pacific to rebuild a once hostile nation, but a tiny island nation a few miles off it’s shore in the Atlantic doesn’t warrant a rebuild. Today, planes fly over it to deliver aid to allies that had a need for it after the rebuild of the WW2, but now, like an indifferent spoiled boy throwing his Christmas presents into an already overfilled closet, uses it has finance to torment the nations around it.

The world has changed for the worse. The devil’s key strategy of Separation is apparent among nations as it is with individuals. As long as he can keep us from talking to each other, from being good listeners, from shying away from diplomacy, and substituting that with ‘distance’ aggression, we are headed for destruction, just has he planned.
 
djames99 said:
What is remarkable is that in the 40’s there was dialogue between nations, and still the nation reps managed to fly to meetings with allies and the undecided. After the war, the nations, with good intentions, determined they needed a central meeting place to resolve issues, the UN.

The irony is that nations today no longer listen to their own governing bodies, never mind seeking the thoughts of the UN. Lobby groups hold sway, and the media steer opinion. They cater to the whims of their militants or big business. Hypocrisy is no longer something to correct, it has become a benign part of the nation’s character trait. The nations of the UN vote a unanimous protest, but the truant nation will give no ear to it’s decision. Technology has introduced convenience into their weapons, and now they no longer need to look into the eyes of those they kill and maim.

Thank God what can’t be hidden is policy. On a principle, the nation may justify it’s aggression against another nation or individual, or try to portray a united charitable front, but the world eventually sees the inconsistency of it’s application throughout the world. For instance the aiding nation may claim it’s works of charity in the world, but there is a pattern that develops. In order for the nation in need to qualify for the largest portion, it now needs to possess a wealth of natural resources.

Haiti comes to mind. After WW2, a helping North American nation with supplies sets a goal to traverse a vast Pacific to rebuild a once hostile nation, but a tiny island nation a few miles off it’s shore in the Atlantic doesn’t warrant a rebuild. Today, planes fly over it to deliver aid to allies that had a need for it after the rebuild of the WW2, but now, like an indifferent spoiled boy throwing his Christmas presents into an already overfilled closet, uses it has finance to torment the nations around it.

The world has changed for the worse. The devil’s key strategy of Separation is apparent among nations as it is with individuals. As long as he can keep us from talking to each other, from being good listeners, from shying away from diplomacy, and substituting that with ‘distance’ aggression, we are headed for destruction, just has he planned.
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During the Cold War, superpower status was the goal. The only two superpowers on earth were the US and the USSR. Now it’s just the US. And each was prepared for Mutually Assured Destruction if nuclear weapons were used, and thank God, they have not.

What is a Third World Country? “The term Third World arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either NATO, or the Communist Bloc. The United States, Western European nations and their allies represented the First World, while the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, and their allies represented the Second World.”

So, what is the common separator? Money. And Special Interest Groups/Lobbyists whose words and goals are sold to us daily.

Have hope. There are aid workers on the ground in Africa, Doctors without Borders and Catholic Charities.

Ed
 
Now it’s just the US

This I think is unlikely. Putin is still muscle flexing, the giveaway sign. The Russians through history have never delivered an empty threat, nor were so stupid as to throw away decades of costly weapons technology. Doing the impossible is their skill, as Von Paulus discovered. Unlike the U.S., Russia banked their military spending for the cold war on the backs of the peasant who would have held the nation to account for it all. An announcement that everything was scrapped would be for foreign ears, but would not have been well received if it was meant for them.

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djames99 said:
Now it’s just the US

This I think is unlikely. Putin is still muscle flexing, the giveaway sign. The Russians through history have never delivered an empty threat, nor were so stupid as to throw away decades of costly weapons technology. Doing the impossible is their skill, as Von Paulus discovered. Unlike the U.S., Russia banked their military spending for the cold war on the backs of the peasant who would have held the nation to account for it all. An announcement that everything was scrapped would be for foreign ears, but would not have been well received if it was meant for them.

30Inf, 3Rd Div Wurzburg, 63-66
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The Russian Federation is not the USSR.

research.stlouisfed.org/publications/economic-synopses/2016/02/23/russias-demographic-problems-started-before-the-collapse-of-the-soviet-union/

ieconomics.com/united-states-vs-russia

I never said anything was scrapped. The Russia of World War II and the Cold War is not the Russia of today. The struggle over land and resources will continue. However, satellite and high altitude drone technology has improved. The Stalin regime is not the Putin regime.

Best,
Ed
 
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