Pray for Dr. Michael L. Brown, Messianic Apologist

[DustinQuick]

As a Protestant, I used to love Dr. Brown’s ministry, books, etc.; he’s been so blessed to bring the light of Messiah to many Jews and non-Jews alike. I was curious to see where he stood on the Catholic Church. When I found out, I was crushed. It’s tragically ironic how someone so knowledgeable - who cares so much about the Jewish roots of Christianity - is so ignorant of, and opposed to, the Church.

This is what I saw today, and I just had the biggest burden to pray for him.

youtube.com/watch?v=tSgDX8Sv5E8

I wonder if any Catholics from a Jewish background have tried to contact him: I’ve contacted Catholics for Israel, Dr. Lawrence Feingold, and Roy Schoeman. It would be great if someone could reach out to him in charity for the sake of truth.

It seems to me that “Messianic Judaism,” to varying degrees, is Protestant Christianity in its basic framework, but “dressed up” to seem more authentically Jewish. All these groups and worldviews, in some way, seem to have to hold to a great apostasy theory, either explicitly or implicitly, by necessity, in order to usurp the historic, apostolic Church, and put themselves in Her place and claim legitimacy as “the True Church.” Otherwise, they have to face the historicity of the Catholic Church head-on, and deal with what the Church says about Herself, rather than what people and groups say about Her. And it appears Dr. Brown doesn’t want to do that, at least at this time.

I pray that the Lord would plant and water seeds in his heart and life, and bring him home to the fullness of the faith.

Please remember him in your prayers.

God bless,

Dustin

 

[hazcompat]

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Peace

 

[InNomineDomini]

I’m familiar with Dr. Brown’s work, whom I first encountered when doing research about Orthodox Judaism, and then when I was listening to things by James White.

I will try to say some prayers for him later, and for all Protestants to be given the Graces to become fully Catholic.

Incidentally, Dustin, it’s fun to see you here! I listened to a bit of your testimony on Roy’s program the other day, although I have to admit that I usually tune out of the conversion stories. I like Roy’s program for Roy, and I wish he’d do a bit more teaching sometimes!

 

[KLM789]

As a Protestant, I used to love Dr. Brown’s ministry, books, etc.; he’s been so blessed to bring the light of Messiah to many Jews and non-Jews alike. I was curious to see where he stood on the Catholic Church. When I found out, I was crushed. It’s tragically ironic how someone so knowledgeable - who cares so much about the Jewish roots of Christianity - is so ignorant of, and opposed to, the Church.

This is what I saw today, and I just had the biggest burden to pray for him.

youtube.com/watch?v=tSgDX8Sv5E8

I wonder if any Catholics from a Jewish background have tried to contact him: I’ve contacted Catholics for Israel, Dr. Lawrence Feingold, and Roy Schoeman. It would be great if someone could reach out to him in charity for the sake of truth.

1. First, the youtube commentator seems very disrespectful of this Messianic Jewish leader. And he seems to have no understanding of the Catholic tradition because he continually finds it problematic. His point is well taken that Dr. Michael Brown doesn’t at all know his church history and seems to totally “dis” Martin Luther’s part in Protestantism.
2. Second, why do we care how ill informed these leaders are? And why do we listen to an equally uninformed youtube videoist? Most likely Dr. Brown doesn’t know how to say he doesn’t know about something and he hasn’t studied it and maybe there is an expectation of this man that he knows everything about what he’s talking about. I find this a common problem in protestant (and) catholic leadership, less so in catholic, but it is there in the various books written to support catholicism as opposed to protestantism. Its so much an “I’m right and you’re wrong” on all sides. But I find that in everyone who professes Christ and the cross, the Spirit can and is often there in the middle of the other stuff. I don’t think we should really be judging these paths these various leaders take. They are doing their best, all of them, and if they pray (and if we pray for them) the Spirit will help them say the right things.
3. Humility helps and maybe everyone involved in this worry over Dr. Brown, and Dr. Brown himself, needs a lot more humility – in that we simply shouldn’t be joining in on these debates. Its picky stuff and Christ is possibly lost in the process.
4. I believe it is a good thing for us to pray for Dr. Brown but we all need to pray for ourselves on this as well. what do you think? Don’t you think we all need prayers? For understanding and acknowledgment and the gift to see and hear what the Spirit gives us through many different people when indeed the Spirit is trying to reach us.

It seems to me that “Messianic Judaism,” to varying degrees, is Protestant Christianity in its basic framework, but “dressed up” to seem more authentically Jewish. All these groups and worldviews, in some way, seem to have to hold to a great apostasy theory, either explicitly or implicitly, by necessity, in order to usurp the historic, apostolic Church, and put themselves in Her place and claim legitimacy as “the True Church.” Otherwise, they have to face the historicity of the Catholic Church head-on, and deal with what the Church says about Herself, rather than what people and groups say about Her. And it appears Dr. Brown doesn’t want to do that, at least at this time.

I pray that the Lord would plant and water seeds in his heart and life, and bring him home to the fullness of the faith.

Please remember him in your prayers.

God bless,

Dustin

 

[DustinQuick]

I’m familiar with Dr. Brown’s work, whom I first encountered when doing research about Orthodox Judaism, and then when I was listening to things by James White.

I will try to say some prayers for him later, and for all Protestants to be given the Graces to become fully Catholic.

Incidentally, Dustin, it’s fun to see you here! I listened to a bit of your testimony on Roy’s program the other day, although I have to admit that I usually tune out of the conversion stories. I like Roy’s program for Roy, and I wish he’d do a bit more teaching sometimes!

Praise the Lord! God bless

 

[DustinQuick]

KLM789:
You raise some great points, KLM789. The Holy Spirit was actually working on me today, on this precise issue: I do need to be more humble when dealing with people who “don’t get it,” and remember that I was where they once were; so that should produce more charity and patience on my part.

I’m happy the Lord could give me some confirmation; thanks so much for the reminder!

And I hope I didn’t give the impression that Dr. Brown needs prayer, but I don’t. Far be it: I need the SAME prayers and grace he (and we) ALL do.

God bless.