Prayer, advice and suggestions needed for Christian Youth Team

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Hello everyone,

I have been lucky enough to have fallen into a fantastic local group inside this year, of young Christians whose work focuses on evangelisation to the young people of a small town. Centered around a two week youth-faith summer scheme, our work branches out all year to a children’s club held during the week, and a place of activity for adolescents on a Saturday night. We are into our second decade since having been established, and have seen thousands of kids pass in and out of our doors, many whom now have a solid grounding in faith, or are leaders of the group themselves.
This year has seen some turbulence, since we are looking to evolve to try and remain relevant to the young people around us. We have recently moved to a more central, accessible place to hold our activities during the week, and have tried to introduce some name and time changes. Since the numbers of kids coming to us during the week has dwindled, we feel this change is necessary and will help to re-establish ourselves. However, this is not why I am writing to you.

We are a team of different leaders from 16-24. Younger children from 4-11 are taken during midweek, while older children 12-16 can go to the Saturday night activities. We are always delighted to have a ‘kid’ become a ‘leader’ once they have finished their last year, but the number of new leaders coming has been a small trickle. In our group, there is a very strong circle of particular friends, who have grown up together through the scheme. They are now well established leaders, and very capable of the good work that they do. However, because of such a tight net group of friends, more recent leaders feel excluded to the point that they feel that they “cannot belong” to the team, if they can’t establish themselves in any kind of group of people. More worryingly, these more experienced leaders make no effort to try and make these leaders feel included. In fact, typical comments and the like can be said that would make a new, enthusiastic leader never come through our doors again. Since this group of friends makes such a large proportion of the team, it’s easy to feel excluded, and even easier to walk away.

Also, we are worried about the lifestyle of some of these leaders, in terms of ‘practice what you preach’. As mentioned, we are very much a group that practices much evangelisation, whether that may be activities, memory verses or personal experiences with the kids, or worship and Biblical studies with leaders. I personally have taken so much out of this group, especially in prayer. But we are worried that some leaders aren’t necessarily taking their own words in when they speak to each other, or to the young people. We teach values such as moderation, respect and love, but some members of the team would be avid party-goers, drinkers, fall into fights about friends or love triangles, and bring about hardship and worry among the team. What we do seems to be an opportunity for them to socialize themselves, and with a lack of kids coming to us (some nights there may be none at all), it’s all they manage to do.

If you have persevered with me this far, thank you! My main point is to ask you how you would respond to such a situation, either hypothetically or if you have some experience yourself. In the past, we have unsuccessfully tried to deal with similar scenarios, either by (gentle) confrontation or through a talk which tries to address the situation. Neither seem to work, and that has lead to people distancing themselves from the group or falling out of faith altogether. We are very cautious as what to do, because we certainly do not want anything like that happening again. For many leaders, this is an important bridge between themselves, and their faith.

In the meantime, please pray for our team of young people and leaders. If you have any suggestions or past experiences, do not hesitate to post.

Thank you very much for your time! 🙂
 
Try watching the documentaries “Father of Lights” or “Furious Love” (www.wpfilms.com) and have a discussion/prayer session about the power of conversion and faith… through love.

These are powerful annointed films and can open the eyes of the lukewarm to the way God wants to use us… especially the young. This may help spark a new seed of faith to “seek out our salvation with fear and trembling”, and understand that it is an “awful thing to fall into the hands of the living God”, and comprehend that Jesus really meant that “if you love me you will obey me”…

I pray God grants you wisdom and power to disciple these young Christians in love and truth–in Jesus’ name!

Peace in Him
 
Thank you very much! I will definitely look into it, sometimes people can struggle to tune in with a speaker, but I think a documentary/film will be especially useful. I’ll check it out!
 
Thank you very much! I will definitely look into it, sometimes people can struggle to tune in with a speaker, but I think a documentary/film will be especially useful. I’ll check it out!
Great! Not sure where my post went, but I’m glad you saw it before it disappeared… The entire trilogy of films by Darren Wilson is really eye-opening and faith-building!

I pray you stand firm on the Precious Blood of Christ as you battle the darkness for the souls of young people!
 
I am not an expert here. The memories I have from those days in my life were in the Baptist Church of some 40 years ago. Ironically enough, the circumstances were parallel, and I was one of those who in my teen age years was drifting into the drinking and partying, etc. As the French say, “plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose” roughly translated, the more things change the more they stay the same.

However, I have often wondered about this. How to keep the young people on a steady path of Christian living into their adulthood? And there are some that do. So what happens in their case?

Protestant or Catholic, young people are the same in terms of human nature. I repeat, I’m no expert here, but it seems to me that first, while kids seem to have so much more energy, the later teenagers have just as much, but they have learned a little about controlling it or directing it. Sometimes that is the path to take.

It doesn’t work for all of them but I do remember in those days that the congregation was very musical and the popular thing in gospel music were the quartets. So there were always a few of the young men who would get together and form a quartet to sing for the congregation. That is one example only. In fact, sometimes the more ambitious the idea the better they like it. There is usually no shortage of imagination and if they come up with the idea themselves they are more likely to follow through, with some guidance of course.

Flash forward to my Catholic present day. Here in our diocese we have now what has become a tradition where the high school seniors prepare for and take the roles of the characters of the Passion including Jesus himself. On Good Friday they do a Stations of the Cross across about a mile of city streets from the Cathedral to another parish, with police parade permits and the entire thing. People are encouraged to follow the stations with them and pray the prayers with them over the course of about 3 hours. There is a huge crowd every year. The Bishop and several priests and a few of the sisters in traditional habit walk with them. It is ambitious, but it works and they really throw themselves into it. Put it this way, it is something that only the energies of their youth could accomplish.
 
The other side of this, the most important side, is the spiritual.

Oddly enough the way to have better success in seeing teenagers remain in the Church is already accomplished before they reach that age and we are only partly responsible.

If we assume (rightly or wrongly it is better to err on the side of caution) that children are not getting the kind of moral and spiritual upbringing at home that they need, then the time of spiritual formation is before they reach the teenage years, when they are approaching or reaching the age of reason. Some peg that at about seven years old, give or take depending on the child.

The advantage of that age is that they are still somewhat externally controlled. Clearly there are already some that are out of control, but they are not at the teenage rebellion stage, trying to find their own identity. However, they are becoming more socially aware, have reasoning skills and yet are impressionable enough that a strong message can resonate.

This is the time to put heavy stress on personal faith in Jesus Christ. Why? First because of the mechanics of this. They have been baptized on the faith of their parents and god-parents with the promise to raise them in the knowledge of the faith, but coming up to Confirmation, the faith is supposed to become their own.

But what is it that makes the faith their own? If we understand the sacrament of confirmation it is the Holy Spirit that not only effects the sacrament but is the mover in their hearts, that speaks and turns them to a love of God. It is no longer just an emotion but it is taking place in their rational mind as well. That is why a lot of the straight truths must be emphasized at this point, whether through their instructors or special speakers. Truthfully, an evangelizing priest can accomplish more with a group of this age in the long run, than with a group of teenagers. This is when the faith becomes personal and conversion of heart takes place. With the serious issues like heaven and hell, life and death, sex and marriage presented to them in straight up non pandering fashion, the Holy Spirit can work in their hearts before they start picking up the baggage of teen rebellion and mercurial sexual drives and hormones that tend to pre-empt anything that an adult could possibly say.

It is also when they are most likely to be impressed by things like guitars and such (not in the mass) and their attention is more likely to be held by such things. When they are teenagers, they find the seventies stuff of their hippie grandparents pretty cheesy. Just watch their faces in one of those campfire masses some parishes are so prone to do.

And, in the early stages of the age of reason, they will listen to people that don’t talk down to them as children. In my own personal interactions with kids of this age over the years I have found this to be invariably true. Talk to them as equals and they will listen to anything you say, they are so overjoyed to be treated with respect, and they will reach to understand hard concepts in that context.

Just some thoughts from a layman.
 
Sorry to go on and on here, but with respect to leadership. The leaders and priests are actually formed in that earlier age I think.

The answer in the immediate term is prayer, prayer and fasting. The results may not be immediately obvious and it may seem that some individuals are gone for good. But I look at my own life. 35 years later I came home and this time I came all the way home, to the Catholic Church.

Focus now on the next group, before they become teenagers. Leave the ones that are drifting away in the hands of God. Speak where necessary. God can perform miracles.
 
Thank you very much uther. 🙂 It’s a hard situation, and this is all very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to help us!
 
I’m sorry to be asking more of your time to anyone who may see this post. We have a meeting this week to discuss a couple of things we can try to do with our team, and any further contributions from anyone would be mightily appreciated addressing the top post.

Thank you all, God bless.
 
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