Prayer for those here that have lost faith or are frustrated

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Jim Morrison used to have a routine where he would take as many substances as his body could handle, then get up in front of an audience and throw himself as close to a shamanistic state as he could achieve, and he would begin ranting, using as his anchor rhythm the line, “You cannot petition the Lord through prayer.” His goal was not to be areligious, because of all people in rock, Morrison was one of the most religious, but his point was this: divinity is not something that comes down to answer human pleas. Divinity is something that you access, as a state of mind within yourself, and then use to formulate long term plans and ideas.
I have no shame in admitting that I pray almost daily. There is no getting down on one’s needs, and there is no single God to whom I appeal. It is not in sadness that I do this, or in fear, but in joy. I don’t go to a church. I walk to the nearest patch of trees and I exalt their spirit, I feel their strength, and as much as I can achieve, I share the feeling of life with them. It is both meditation, and prayer, and it does not involve humility on my part, nor theirs. They do not even have to be aware of my presence, nor would I want them to do so. However, it is the form of aesthetic contemplation that Schopenhauer found as being a manifestation of pure Will itself; it is understanding the order of the cosmos, realizing that I am an agent of it, and vowing on my grave and forefathers to act it out in the only meaningful sense of honor: to do what is right in the universe so that all growth is ascendant, or moving toward enhanced states of harmonious order.
Oddly, one should be sober for such prayer, as it will take your entire soul and indeed, transform it, but as that soul came from the same cosmos thus life-force that produced the trees, it will not change anything, but rather develop it and give it reason to see its own strength, and to make its own value choices. While some petition gods they hope will help them, or pray for a new cow or a better parking space, the way those who are not superstitious pray is to find comradeship among the gods and among the task gods and men share. After all, if the cosmos is one thing - which by all appearances and the continuity of structure among it, it is - humans and gods and trees alike are its agents, being formed of its structure and design and conducting its activity. The far-east philosophies see this activity as a source of frustration, because cleaning the dishes and finding a way to feed yourself and other tasks of life are ultimately tedious, but to look at the whole of the cosmos is to look at the long-term, and from this, to peer directly into the meaning behind such activity in a way that one transcends the boredom and stupefacient repetition of maintaining life. Christianity, as a bridge between these extremes, views life as terrible and immoral and thus suggests that the only salvation comes through making an order of God on Earth, but this order is distinct from an existing order, being based entirely in the concept of the equality of human souls. To my mind, whatever divinity inhabits the earth does not care for individuals as much as individual experience, and thus openly endorses the evolutionary practice of letting the weaker die out so the survivors, in the future, are stronger and thus have better lives.
Accordingly, it makes little sense to think one would petition the Lord in prayer, as everything any Lord could grant is already here, and dependent upon the action of the individual in adaptation to nature itself. We are in the driver’s seat, and we are in control here; if we act in harmony with the methods of nature, we will achieve results that are well-adapted to our world, and thus a long-term success, even if we incur total personal loss as a result. That personal loss is inconsequential compared with achieving the goal. Thus why would one pray?
I can only answer in personal metaphor: I go to the trees because of all things on earth, they are the most focused on their goal, which is the sun. They grow and thrive regardless of suffering, hardship, personal death or despair, and for that reason are more eternal in countenance than human beings. Their action asserts personal growth in the context of the whole, and they are content to live by the laws of nature, in which some trees will die so that the forest is healthy. Their focus is on the sun, on growing, and on getting stronger with every generation. This kind of spirituality is eternal. By all means, pray - but never confuse cosmic prayer with getting down on your knees and begging. – article taken from Continuity.us

See also:
The Book of God
Meister Eckhart (link 2)
 
I used to love Jim Morrison’s music, I thought it was so deep, now I realize you have to be stoned to get it. It is impossible to listen to when you are sober, just painful. I get the same feeling with a lot of writing about “spirituality”.
 
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I used to love Jim Morrison’s music, I thought it was so deep, now I realize you have to be stoned to get it. It is impossible to listen to when you are sober, just painful. I get the same feeling with a lot of writing about “spirituality”.
It’s not impossible to “get it” when sober. I love his music.
 
I need a miracle. I am not mentally ill; I am just ugly and unwanted. How can I accept this? I am tired of people telling me I am sick when I am just unfortunate.

If any of you want, PM me and I’ll send you pictures.
 
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ThisOne:
I need a miracle. I am not mentally ill; I am just ugly and unwanted. How can I accept this? I am tired of people telling me I am sick when I am just unfortunate.

If any of you want, PM me and I’ll send you pictures.
you are a child of God and therefore beautiful and both beloved and wanted by your Creator who wishes to be close to you and who sent His Son for you. that is the miracle. we all are praying for you.
 
And the precise point or question of the OP is…what? :whacky:
 
I’m somewhat confused too…think it may have been a statement (and a confusing one to me anyway) opened for discussion, rather than a direct question?

Peace…Barb
 
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