Prayers in Latin

[nonsumd]

If that be the case than you had best learn Italian as the Italians and in particular the Romans are some of the most ardent anticlericalists in the Christian world. I am of the opinion that Ben XVI should be spending his days and nights straightening out the problems in his own (arch)diocese before considering anything anywhere else in the world. He is after all as bishop of Rome the chief teacher of the faith in his own (arch)diocese.

Matthew

In fact, I do say the rosary in Italian!

Another fact is that Italy has been undergoing a revival of Catholic participation in recent years – thanks in great part precisely to John Paul’s emphasis on re-evangelizing Italy, an emphasis which Pope Benedict shows no signs of discontinuing.

Catholic life in Italy is these days more vibrant than in places like France, and public support for Catholic social and moral positions is stronger than in places like Spain.

Italy is not Poland by any means, but it’s not Ireland either.

In any case, I don’t think it’s right to disparage anyone’s desire to pray in the universal language of the Church or in the language in which so many of the saints prayed during their life times.

 

[nonsumd]

If that be the case than you had best learn Italian as the Italians and in particular the Romans are some of the most ardent anticlericalists in the Christian world. I am of the opinion that Ben XVI should be spending his days and nights straightening out the problems in his own (arch)diocese before considering anything anywhere else in the world. He is after all as bishop of Rome the chief teacher of the faith in his own (arch)diocese.

Matthew

This is going to be off topic, but…

Did Jesus’ giving Peter the keys to the kingdom pertain only to the salvation of the faithful in the archdiocese of Rome?

Is the office of Pope that of micro-manager of a single archdiocese?

Do you really think the Pope’s ministering to the whole global Church and indeed to the world as a whole should wait till he has managed to convert every fanatical anti-clericalist in Rome or Italy to Catholic loyalty?

You think that working to strengthen the faith elsewhere in the world is irrelevant to strengthening the faith in Rome, Italy, or Europe?

In any case, what was one of the reasons that the cardinals elected a European pope, if not to struggle to reverse the secularization of Europe, including Italy and Rome?

 

[Malcolm_McLean]

Is the office of Pope that of micro-manager of a single archdiocese?

It can be, yes. A Pope could be primarily bishop of Rome and only rarely if ever exercise a faculty specific to the Pope.

However in modern conditions that isn’t too likely. Catholics naturally look to the Pope to resolve disputes and provide leadership. So much so that Benedict XVI has delegated the day to affairs of the diocese of Rome to an assistant bishop.

 

[Revap]

I agree, its not right to question why someone wants to use the language of the Church.

I am a recent convert to Catholism. It did not take me long when I felt the need to learn the language of our Church, so made an effort to learn Catholic prayers in Latin, then came Mass and the Rosary. I still struggle with pronunciations, but I make progress everyday.

You can get downloadable PDF files for the Rosary, Mass and Stations of the Cross in Latin on this site.

preces-latinae.org/thesaurus/BVM/Rosarium.html

 

[randomguy0187]

I hope this is a related question, but can anyone recommend a good prayer book in English and Latin? I like the posted website, but I find it hard to look at a computer screen for extended length of time, and I just have a general preference for books.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I got a CD a few years back of Pope John Paul II saying the Rosary, in Latin. I didn’t know it was in Latin when I bought it, but it really helped me with pronunciation. Of course, I probably pray in Latin with a Polish accent now…

One of the reasons I like my Latin Mass so much is because I had found that I was “mailing it in” at the NO liturgies. Not the fault of the liturgy, just that because it was in English and I knew it so well, I was saying the responses without thinking. At the TLM, I HAVE to keep my focus on what is going on, because I do not know the Latin yet.

 

[tee_eff_em]

I hope this is a related question, but can anyone recommend a good prayer book in English and Latin? I like the posted website, but I find it hard to look at a computer screen for extended length of time, and I just have a general preference for books.

I do not know of any general prayer books in Latin and English – Typically they are one or the other. Books with parallel texts/prayers tend to be special purpose (eg a Missal, or Scepter Press’s Lauds and Vespers).

There are a couple of pages of appendix to the *Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church *with parallel Latin and English prayers. (The rest of the book is pretty good too )

tee

 

[mangy_dog]

I know that this is rude, off topic and probably a host of other objectionable things, but why do you want to pray the rosary in Latin? Do you imagine that God and the saints will hear you better or understand you better in Latin than in English?
Remember the first thing the Catechism taught about prayer: Prayer is the lifting up of our minds and hearts to God. This is best done in your own native tongue, whatever that may be.

Matthew

And the way that one catholic or another lifts his or her mind is very personal. Be that in English, Spanish, Latin etc etc. To some its a personal devotion…very personal. Pope Benedict XVI has suggested that we learn a few basic prayers in Latin. Why? I’m sure that the reason is still in the future, meaning its not visible or obvious why yet. I simply took the suggestion. Other catholics may or may not see the need, that’s ok too. Make your devotions, the ones that elevate your mind to God, personal, in private - where only He and you are alone together.
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.

 

[SemperFidelis]

Here is a 752 page prayerbook that has both Latin and English translations:

loretopubs.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=16

Here’s another one with both Latin and English
(I believe):

allcatholicbooks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ACB&Product_Code=AT25xp9&Category_Code=

If you want something smaller, check around the second site I gave you. They have some smaller prayer books as both above are quite large.

 

[mangy_dog]

Rawb,

Here’s a thread that I started when I was trying to learn the rosary in Latin. It contains some helpful pronunciation tips.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=100931

God Bless,
Gary

Hello Gary,

Just a suggestion. When pronouncing the vowels in Latin, use the Spanish form as opposed to the English form. Example:

a would be as in - father. And not as in - ate.
e would be as in- ever. And not as in- feed.
i would be as in - feed. And not as in - ice.
o would be as in - offer. And not as in - know.
u would be as in - pool. And not as in - union.

In other words they are pronounced, flat. Not elongated. Hope this helps.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.

 

[CatQuilt]

I hope this is a related question, but can anyone recommend a good prayer book in English and Latin? I like the posted website, but I find it hard to look at a computer screen for extended length of time, and I just have a general preference for books.

The Handbook of Prayers ISBN 093393260x

Midday Prayers
Evening Prayers
Preparation for Mass
The Eucharistic Sacrifice
Prayers after Mass
Communion Outside Mass
Eucharistic Adoration
Guide for a Good Confession
Devotions to the Blessed Trinity
Devotions to Our Lord Jesus Christ
Devotions to the Holy Spirit
Devotions to the Blessed Virgin Mary
Devotions to St. Joseph
Various Prayers
Prayers at the Time of Death
Prayers for the Dead
Blessings
Sacraments When in Danger of Death

Many of its prayers are in both English and Latin

It’s excellent!

 

[mangy_dog]

How did I know this would get a quick response?

Yeah, the pronunciation is what I’m really worried about. It probably wouldn’t be as hard as I think; I’ve studied Italian (very, very little) and I’ve heard they’re similar. The problem lies in the fact that I’ve also studied (a few years of) French, and (even less than Italian) some German. When I try to speak a foriegn language I’m unfamiliar with, it can get interesting!

So if every letter is pronounced, that means the endings too (unlike French). Is ‘ce’ and ‘ci’ pronounced 'ch’ like in Italian?

I assume German has little to do with Latin? Though I’ve been told I pronounce Aloysius the way Germans do.

Latin pronunciation is more similar to Spanish, Italian and Portuguese.
If that helps.

Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.

 

[Mark77]

We know that God hears our groaning and knows what we need before we do.

Latin is so beautiful and it has been said throughout the ages. It speaks to those of us who grew up hearing the Mass in Latin.

May God Bless you.

Mark