Presumption?

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Hello all,

Question for you: If I thought of something that could be sinful (but wasnt sure if it was sinful or not), then said I could do it and then go to confession, but DID NOT commit the sin, am I guilty of presumption?

God bless,
Jonathan
 
would really appreciate thoughts dear brothers and sisters
 
Hi,

First to sin, one has to know if it is a sin or not. Secondly is one does not know if it is a sin, one is obligated to find out if it is. If you thought that you could do it and go to Confession later and did carry it out, it would be a sin, be it mortal who knows, there’s a lot of factors to weigh in on that one.

I don’t believe it was a sin. Being tempted is not to sin, however acting upon that temptation therein lies the sin. I would counsel you to refute that thought in the future should it come up, and if there is any doubt as whether something is a sin, I would inquire about it.

God bless.
 
foreveradoreHim said:
Hello all,

Question for you: If I thought of something that could be sinful (but wasnt sure if it was sinful or not), then said I could do it and then go to confession, but DID NOT commit the sin, am I guilty of presumption?

God bless,
Jonathan
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Hi,
I would score that 2 for the devil, and 0 for you. Yesssssssssssssssssssssss!, on 2 counts.

Supposing a pencil was the object of thieft. 1 count of sin for theift in the mind. And 1 count of sin for presumption. Both venial.

Supposing it was a bank. Both mortal.

Have a happy day and stay away from them double sins, one at a time is enough. I won’t have to sin any more because you are doing enough for the both of us.​

I believe in the Son even when it isn’t shinning.
 
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then said I could do it and then go to confession​

Hi,
If that remained an undeceided thought merely under consideration without assent, then there would be no sin.

But if there was assent after that thought, tho not carried out, it would be sinful.
 
Here’s one:

I almost gave someone a piece of my mind for reckless driving in a parking lot. This person didn’t get out of their vehicle, I went into the store. I’m not sure whether or not I would have actually confronted the person. I know that I wouldn’t have threatened them or even used fowl language.

Anyway, I wanted to mention this in confession but forgot until after I professed being “sorry for these sins and all those of my life” (while the priest was doing his thing).

Was this a sin to begin with? If so, am I absolved being that I forgot until after professing my all-encompasing sorrow and given the fact that I generally confessed being (name removed by moderator)atient with others recently and acting out on this?
 
I spoke to a priest outside of confession and he said I didnt need to worry since the thing I thought of was not a sin at all.

God bless.
 
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Here’s one:

I almost gave someone a piece of my mind for reckless driving in a parking lot. This person didn’t get out of their vehicle, I went into the store. I’m not sure whether or not I would have actually confronted the person. I know that I wouldn’t have threatened them or even used fowl language.

Anyway, I wanted to mention this in confession but forgot until after I professed being “sorry for these sins and all those of my life” (while the priest was doing his thing).

Was this a sin to begin with? If so, am I absolved being that I forgot until after professing my all-encompasing sorrow and given the fact that I generally confessed being (name removed by moderator)atient with others recently and acting out on this?
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I don’t think it’s a sin since you didn’t DO anything. The thoughts might have been venial if they were sinful at all, meaning you don’t need to confess them to the priest. And you are absolved of all the sins you honestly forgot. (Note: I can’t say whether or not something’s a sin; I dont know enough. This is a reasonable opinion.)
 
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