Preventing Homosexuality

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Thanks to CA Live, for this topic being on tonight’s broadcast. I appeared on the program and I was quite nervous.

catholic.com/radio/calive.asp

I convinced that I had homosexual tendencies and lived the lift for 25 years. Since 2001, I returned to the Church and have led a chaste life. There are times that Satan and his spiritual warfare tends to p;ant thoughts in my head, but I shrug them off. Since I never had that strong father-male role model, I thought I was homosexual. But I mostly found out that I am probably a eunch (sp) as described in the New Testament. …‘some are born runchs…’

I would like this to be a thread for such discussions and were to find help. encouragement, and outreach for prayers for those in same-sex attractions.

If at any time that this thread become a problem, I ask the mods to close it down.

Thanks!
 
Very Good Edwin 1961! Thank you for sharing. I just tuned in on the east coast. I think the show is 1/2 way through. I will listen to the first 1/2 when it is published on the CA forums.

I don’t have same sex attraction but my brother does. Maybe I will share later in the thread.
 
Congratulations, Edwin. Yes, the radio show today is great and badly needed. Acceptance and promotion of unchaste homosexuality is leading to all manner of evils.
 
I listened to the full CA Live broadcast about preventing homosexuality. It was interesting.
As stated earlier, I don’t have same-sex attraction but my sibling does.
I only wish that he had support and therapy when he was most receptive - 25 years ago. Now he is so steeped in his gay life style there seems to be no turning back.

Edwin,
You are blessed to have made necessary changes in your life when you did. Conversion isn’t always easy for those already entrenched in a sinful way. It is possible though. When and how only God knows. We can only pray for those very entrenched in sin.
Peace and all Goodness!
Contemplative
 
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contemplative:
I listened to the full CA Live broadcast about preventing homosexuality. It was interesting.
As stated earlier, I don’t have same-sex attraction but my sibling does.
I only wish that he had support and therapy when he was most receptive - 25 years ago. Now he is so steeped in his gay life style there seems to be no turning back.

Edwin,
You are blessed to have made necessary changes in your life when you did. Conversion isn’t always easy for those already entrenched in a sinful way. It is possible though. When and how only God knows. We can only pray for those very entrenched in sin.
Peace and all Goodness!
Contemplative
I am praying and waiting if Our Lord wants me to be a spokeman for this very outreach.
So far, no doors have opened. I have a broadcasting degree and would like to give talks on this issue from my personal experience but nothing as yet. Maybe my appearance on CA Live will open some doors.

Continue to pray for those with same-sex attraction and those fully participating in the homosexual lifestyle.
 
Contemplative,
In the Radio Forum you went more in depth about your sibling with same-sex attraction.

In 1998, I talked to TWO priests who told me I should be ‘glad of my sexuality’. I had told both priests that I wanted answers about my ‘attraction’ and what to do. I was a VERY confused person 7 years ago. :confused: During this time, my brother, who was in the Seminary was praying for me.

By 2001, I slipped into a 'lifestyle of ‘playing around’ and multiple partners because I was ‘encouraged’ to be glad of my sexuality.

IF I had been given ‘THE TRUTH’ back in 1998, I probably wouldn’t have slipped even LOWER in my life…Then again, maybe Our Lord wanted me to experience my ‘hitting bottom’ so I can turn around and go back UP towards Him.

Now I tell people, 'I have a Lover, and He IS Jesus Christ, in His Church with his Body Blood Soul and Divinity.
 
Your story sounds familiar in many ways. The only difference is that my brother hasn’t come up for air like you did. I don’t feel there is anything I can do for him now. My poor parents were so frustrated years ago when the priest contradicted Church teachings. Now they simply accept their son where he is. How many parents of homosexuals didn’t get the help they needed? I wonder. I wonder about the pain.
 
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contemplative:
Your story sounds familiar in many ways. The only difference is that my brother hasn’t come up for air like you did. I don’t feel there is anything I can do for him now. My poor parents were so frustrated years ago when the priest contradicted Church teachings. Now they simply accept their son where he is. How many parents of homosexuals didn’t get the help they needed? I wonder. I wonder about the pain.
It is sad to know that those priest who are NOT in line with Church teaching will have to answer to Our Lord when they meet Him.

The ‘father of lies’ really has a grip on those he doesn’t want to let go. Prayers, rosaries and etc will help your brother. All I can suggest is for him to listen to the program.
The Doctor made some great points about the types of calls the show attracted…'he noticed that we all said that …“We thought we were homosexual.” This statement may help your brother if he hears it several times from within the program.
 
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Edwin1961:
It is sad to know that those priest who are NOT in line with Church teaching will have to answer to Our Lord when they meet Him.

The ‘father of lies’ really has a grip on those he doesn’t want to let go. Prayers, rosaries and etc will help your brother. All I can suggest is for him to listen to the program.
The Doctor made some great points about the types of calls the show attracted…'he noticed that we all said that …“We thought we were homosexual.” This statement may help your brother if he hears it several times from within the program.
This thread and 6/27/2005 - Preventing Homosexuality- Your thoughts broadcasting a controversal topic along with the CA talk show have been good for me. I have never been able to publicly express my viewpoint until now.
The National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality looks like a good website for anyone interested in this topic narth.com/index.html
In all this discussion has freed me to the point of realizing how much my brother needs my prayers. Not just my brother but all those who suffer with the temptation of homosexuality need support and prayers.
 
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contemplative:
This thread and 6/27/2005 - Preventing Homosexuality- Your thoughts broadcasting a controversal topic along with the CA talk show have been good for me. I have never been able to publicly express my viewpoint until now.
The National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality looks like a good website for anyone interested in this topic narth.com/index.html
In all this discussion has freed me to the point of realizing how much my brother needs my prayers. Not just my brother but all those who suffer with the temptation of homosexuality need support and prayers.
Isn’t it a blessing that God, at this time in history, let this CA Live program, and all of us callers to callin and in a round-about way help you, so you can help your brother. Please follow up with your results.
Thanks!
 
Edwin, I heard you yesterday. What courage! Thank you for giving your voice to the Holy Spirit!

I wanted to call in and ask a question but I was having a heck of a time framing it. I didn’t want to sound offensive and/or insensitive. I am going to try an frame the question here and maybe you all can help me with my wording and give me some feedback.

It ‘feels’ (and I know feelings are not facts, which is why I hesitate with this question) as though there is an underlying premise that denying one’s same-sex attraction is more difficult in terms of staying chaste than for those of us with normal sexual attraction. I am a 49 year old widow and, since my total reconversion 5 years ago, have been celibate. Before that I had one relationship outside of marriage and it was wrong. It was part of the catalyst for me to either commit to being a faithful Catholic and learning more about my faith or just go away.
In the secular world my chaste lifestyle is not truly valued; in fact if I have any kind of emotional upset that world tends to trace it back to my NOT having regular sex. I think this is plain dumb.

Friends of mine who are active homosexual tend to present themselves as having to participate in sexual laisons. I am active in a 12 step program that demands physical sobriety. It is not unusual for homosexuals in the program to ‘fall off the wagon’ through hanging out in gay bars or meeting men online and then using drugs or alcohol to enhance the sexual experience. When I suggest to them that being sexually active seems to be counter-productive to maintaining their sobriety they act horrified at the idea of staying celibate. And they are even MORE horrified - more so than my heterosexual friends in the program - that I have been celibate and intend to remain so unless I am called to the vocation of marriage.

You can understand why I hesitated to ask this question on the air. I wonder if the ‘homosexual agenda’ is one that demands an ‘active’ sex life in order to justify itself.

Does this even make any sense?
 
Leslie K.
You are right on the issue of sexual ‘identification’ as a means of a homosexual lifestyle.

In understanding the homosexual lifestyle, you have to look at hstory. The sexual activity of a homosexual is rooted in the fact that ‘the act’ has been surpressed for A LONG time. Now the genie is let out of the bottle and for the homosexual, ‘they are freed to display their sexuality’ without hesitation. In the homosexual community, sex is placed HIGH on the list of freedoms. (IT makes you wonder why gay marriage is SO politital for them…They want the rights and the $$$ advantages, but their way of looking at marriage is MUCH different thatn society traditionally looks at it.

I was in a 'committed relationship for 14 years. Yet, sex was so demanding that my partner wasn’t satasified and wanted more.
Somewhere, sometime in a committed homosexaul relationship, one or the other partner will have an affair more often than you may think. They may deny it but it is true, I lived it.

Lesile, wear prodly the chaste label and know in your heart that what you are experiencing is for Christ and His Church. Any rejection you may receive, offer it up to our Lord in union with His sufferings. I too have bouts of lonliness and would rather be lonely than going back to that ‘way of life’.
 
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Edwin1961:
Leslie K.
You are right on the issue of sexual ‘identification’ as a means of a homosexual lifestyle.

In understanding the homosexual lifestyle, you have to look at hstory. The sexual activity of a homosexual is rooted in the fact that ‘the act’ has been surpressed for A LONG time. Now the genie is let out of the bottle and for the homosexual, ‘they are freed to display their sexuality’ without hesitation. In the homosexual community, sex is placed HIGH on the list of freedoms. (IT makes you wonder why gay marriage is SO politital for them…They want the rights and the $$$ advantages, but their way of looking at marriage is MUCH different thatn society traditionally looks at it.

I was in a 'committed relationship for 14 years. Yet, sex was so demanding that my partner wasn’t satasified and wanted more.
Somewhere, sometime in a committed homosexaul relationship, one or the other partner will have an affair more often than you may think. They may deny it but it is true, I lived it.

Lesile, wear prodly the chaste label and know in your heart that what you are experiencing is for Christ and His Church. Any rejection you may receive, offer it up to our Lord in union with His sufferings. I too have bouts of lonliness and would rather be lonely than going back to that ‘way of life’.
thanks, Edwin, your encouraging words mean a great deal to me.
And your explanation makes a great deal of sense. If ones sense of self is so caught up in a sex act, then the “freedom” to have sex becomes the whole purpose of existence. Or maybe that is too harsh - not the whole purpose, but the primary purpose.

In many ways it can be compared to the women’s movement and the sexual freedom contraception and abortion were supposed to provide. Now, we could ‘act like men’ in the bedroom - and yet, no one really spoke to the idea that promiscuous men were breaking the commandments and behaving badly - they were NOT admirable.

What many women in the 60’s and 70’s found was that there was almost an obligation to be promiscuous; that having multiple sexual partners was somehow proclaiming our liberation. Later, years later, as the dust settles, we now are faced with a society where 14 and 15 year olds participate in orgies, rape phsyically or mentally challenged peers, and insist that having sex is a natural function that cannot be restricted in any way or it will lead to some sort of stifling of the personality.

It is a sticky subject, sex. Again, I applaud you for your courage and thank you for your kind words.
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what’s a eunch (sp)? :o 😦

i wish i could’ve heard your sharing, edwin1961! 😦 😦 😦
 
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