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Why are Pro Choice Catholics not disciplined for pushing the Pro Choice agenda and allocating money to fund abortions?

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Catholic politicians that vote for abortion cause many more abortions to take place, and the blood of those children are on their hands.
 
I liked your post but I didnā€™t really like it. I just agree with it.

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The pro-choice agenda will never go away in this country. Ever. Not while there are votes to be gained and money to be made by dividing us.
 
Pro-Choice people do not understand we are created in Gods image, nor understand the morality of taking a life. To them, its not even human, just like the children being separated from their families at our borders.
 
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Some of them do not think they are doing anything wrong because they remain ā€œpersonally pro-lifeā€ while publicly affirming ā€œthe separation of church and stateā€ and the ā€œright for nonbelievers to ā€˜chooseā€™ā€. They think they are being good secular political representatives, and they cannot see it any other way. Because of this, they donā€™t think they are in a state of mortal sin.

The church leadership is reluctant to draw a line in the sand. Iā€™m not sure why. I can hazard a guess: if these politicians truly believe this and cannot comprehend that their actions are sinful then they have not met the 3 requirements for committing a mortal sinā€¦
 
I donā€™t know many pro-choice Catholics. However, I do know many Catholics who vote democratic because voting democratic presumably will do more immediate good than voting republican. I feel as though many on this forum conflate voting democratic with voting pro choice. One can care about more than one issue and discern the practicality and the tangible good that might result from his or her vote.

For example, based on what is going on at our border, it is difficult to assert that Trumpā€™s administration is pro-life or pro-family.

Cardinal Cupich, for example, has endorsed a consistent life ethic, which is neither republican nor democratic. It is just Catholic, but I think it is a perspective that is often met with scorn by more conservative Catholics.
 
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Ignatius64869 said:
. One can care about more than one issue and discern the practicality and the tangible good that might result from his or her vote.
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Much of what I think has already been said. I think the above statement of yours that I cited is the dilemma the OP and many many Catholics who donā€™t understand the reluctance of the Church leaders to take a more concrete stand have a problem with. Their question, and mine, is the priority of the issue. Are the issues equal. Does voting for more money for resurfacing the interstate highways just as important as the willful and deliberate destruction of human life in it most helpless form? Thatā€™s the problem.
 
With regards to the border, that just isnā€™t true. Children were separated from their parents and put into the fence cages during the last administration too. For whatever reason people are going crazy about it now when the news stories about it in 2016 were largely ignored. Itā€™s a horrible policy to be sure but itā€™s flat out wrong to pretend that it was invented by this administration. It is just a fact that a vote for the Democratic party is a vote for abortion and lack of religious freedom.
 
There is no concrete Catholic stance. Thatā€™s simply not the role of the Church. There is ambiguity in being a Catholic; there is ambiguity in being a Christian. There is ambiguity in being a human. We cannot place God in a box, for once we make something other than God absolute, we have created an idol.

The Churchā€™s goal is to shepherd us and to help us build the Kingdom of God. It is our place to discern, to listen to other perspectives, and to go out and build the Kingdom of God in whatever way we can.

Personally, I do not see a real possibility of overturning Roe v. Wade in the near future. Laws reflect culture; culture does not reflect laws. Making abortion illegal will not suddenly catapult us unto a pro-life culture. First we need to build a consistent pro-life culture where the marginalized (including unborn children) are cared for. We cannot, however, hide behind the pro-life label of the republican party. Neither party is pro-life. Each individual must discern how he or she can build the kingdom of God every day. We have to become comfortable with the ambiguity. We have to be comfortable with making a mistake and trusting that God is a loving God and will understand. We have to become comfortable in a Church without labels. Thatā€™s hard, but itā€™s necessary.
 
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Cardinal Cupich, for example, has endorsed a consistent life ethic, which is neither republican nor democratic. It is just Catholic, but I think it is a perspective that is often met with scorn by more conservative Catholics
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Conservativism is starting to change into racism thanks to Trump. The times are changing fast.
 
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Pro-Choice people do not understand we are created in Gods image, not understand the morality of taking a life. To them, its not even human, just like the children being separated from their families at our borders.
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Not really. Most just donā€™t believe that life begins at the same time pro-life people do. It really is that simple.
 
Luckily, science tells us when life begins, so arbitrary beliefs donā€™t matter.
 
Sadly, pro choice more often means pro abortionā€¦
But neither should all those who claim the title of being pro life be let off the hookā€¦pro life more often only means pro birth, and the other aspects of the sanctity of life are ignored.
 
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