Proper Gesture for Agnus Dei?

[vince2paul]

Stand or kneel?
And in which document it is stated?

Sorry, I’m late for Mass and need it urgently.

Thanks all, God bless.

 

[benedictgal]

Hi, Vince!

Given the fact that you are in Singapore, I don’t know what your bishops’ national conference has decreed.

You generall stand during the Agnus Dei. In the United States, when the priest says, "Ecce Agnus De (behold, the Lamb of God), we kneel. However, this is an adaptation granted to the United States. I am across the border from Mexico. They remain standing even at the “Ecce Agnus Dei.”

However, for the chanting of the Agnus Dei, they also stand in Mexico, so, standing would be the universal posture, unless your bishops’ conference asked for something different.

 

[japhy]

Stand or kneel? And in which document it is stated?

During the Agnus Dei, you stand. After the Agnus Dei, in the US, it varies from diocese to diocese. The norm is that you kneel, but the Bishop can decide to keep the people standing instead.

GIRM 43 says:The faithful should stand … from the invitation, Orate, fratres (Pray, brethren), before the prayer over the offerings until the end of Mass, except at the places indicated below. … The faithful kneel after the Agnus Dei unless the Diocesan Bishop determines otherwise.

 

[benedictgal]

During the Agnus Dei, you stand. After the Agnus Dei, in the US, it varies from diocese to diocese. The norm is that you kneel, but the Bishop can decide to keep the people standing instead.

GIRM 43 says:The faithful should stand … from the invitation, Orate, fratres (Pray, brethren), before the prayer over the offerings until the end of Mass, except at the places indicated below. … The faithful kneel after the Agnus Dei unless the Diocesan Bishop determines otherwise.

Thanks, japhy, for clarifying that one. It gets crazy down here, especially when we have faithful from South of the Border who attend Mass on the Texas side and stand when we kneel. It throws everyone off and the celebrant has had to gently motion with his hand as to what to do when.

 

[Cristiano]

Stand or kneel?
And in which document it is stated?

Sorry, I’m late for Mass and need it urgently.

Thanks all, God bless.

When I travel to Singapore and I attend mass there, I see people following the same rules that we follow here in the USA: standing during the Agnus Dei and kneeling after it.

 

[vince2paul]

Thanks all for the replies.

Actually, I’m back to Indonesia for good. It’s just that I forgot to update my profile

In Indonesia, the gesture differs in every dioceses and not many people actually bother to know whether we should stand or kneel, such as during the consecration; in my church, those with kneeler kneel, the rest usually standing.

I’m just clarifying it because someone was confused and asked it in the other forum. In some parishes, the faithful kneel when the priest start singing/saying Agnus Dei.

 

[maggiemay2u]

On the wacky west coast the norm is to stand. There are a few rogue parishes where the faithful kneel, at least at some of the Masses. I am a parishioner at one of these. It kind of happened gradually. One or two people, then ten or twelve, and before you knew it, everybody was on their knees.

The same thing happened after Communion.The norm is for persons to remain standing after Communion. An East Indian priest was in residence last summer. After he concluded distributing the Eucharist, he knelt down, facing the tabernacle, until the EMHC’s returned to the congregation. The pastor picked it up, and voila, the whole congregation now remains kneeling until the prayers after Communion.

Apparently, the bishop doesn’t have a problem with either process, as he has been to the parish several times and nothing has been intimated or changed.

I’m sure some helpful soul here will quickly advise me on how my parish is in danger of excommunication