Psalm 29 - Originally intended for the god Baal?!?

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OK, you could have floored me with this one. I’m reading “The Catholic Companion to the Psalms” by Mary Kathleen Glavich and came across this little tidbit
Psalm 29, the oldest psalm, probably originated as a psalm to Baal, the Canaanite storm god. It is called the “seven-thunder psalm” because of the repetition of “The voice fo the Lord”.
I’ve never heard this mentioned anywhere else.

Has anybody heard this before? Any comments?
 
Here’s the Psalm in its entirety.

1 *** A psalm of David. Give to the LORD, you heavenly beings, give to the LORD glory and might; 2 ****** Give to the LORD the glory due God’s name. Bow down before the LORD’S holy splendor!****** 3 *** The voice of the LORD is over the waters; the God of glory thunders, the LORD, over the mighty waters.*** 4 ****** The voice of the LORD is power; the voice of the LORD is splendor.****** 5 ****** The voice of the LORD cracks the cedars; the LORD splinters the cedars of Lebanon,****** 6 *** Makes Lebanon leap like a calf, and Sirion like a young bull.*** 7 ****** The voice of the LORD strikes with fiery flame;****** 8 *** the voice of the LORD rocks the desert; the LORD rocks the desert of Kadesh.*** 9 *** The voice of the LORD twists the oaks and strips the forests bare. All in his palace say, "Glory!"*** 10 *** The LORD sits enthroned above the flood! The LORD reigns as king forever!*** 11 *** May the LORD give might to his people; may the LORD bless his people with peace!
 
The word ba’al is most commonly used as a proper name for any of the various Canaanite deities, but not always. It is a noun meaning “lord”, “master” or “owner”, and may have been used in certain contexts to denote the True God or a human master.

IIRC, I once saw an old translation of Psalm 110 which began “Ba’al said unto my ba’al…”, but I am not able to locate it at this time to verify this.
 
The word ba’al is most commonly used as a proper name for any of the various Canaanite deities, but not always. It is a noun meaning “lord”, “master” or “owner”, and may have been used in certain contexts to denote the True God or a human master.

IIRC, I once saw an old translation of Psalm 110 which began “Ba’al said unto my ba’al…”, but I am not able to locate it at this time to verify this.
Yes, Ba’al is a term for master, from what I understand. But this passage specifically mentioned Baal, the god of the Canaanites, who was also sarcastically called, “Lord of the Flies”, if I’m correct.

BTW, I have FINALLY figured out what IIRC means!!! Thanks!
 
Yes, Ba’al is a term for master, from what I understand. But this passage specifically mentioned Baal, the god of the Canaanites, who was also sarcastically called, “Lord of the Flies”, if I’m correct.

BTW, I have FINALLY figured out what IIRC means!!! Thanks!
Sorry, but I don’t see anything in Psalm 29 that would indicate that the word ba’al, if it were used in the original, would indicate a canaanite god rather than the God (or “Lord” or “Master”, literally “ba’al”) of Israel.

BTW, in case anyone else doesn’t know what IIRC means, it stands for “if I recall correctly”. (and BTW stands for “by the way”.)
 
I was wondering if anyone else had heard this before. I might try and contact the author to see where the base their opinion on.
 
I don’t remember if it was this specific psalm…

But I recall a seminary Liturgy professor suggesting something similar. I don’t know the source he used. It wasn’t stated as a fact, but rather that “it was likely” that this psalm was adopted by the Israelites from their Canaanite “neighbors”.

I know this isn’t very helpful but at least you know that such ideas do make the rounds.
 
I don’t remember if it was this specific psalm…

But I recall a seminary Liturgy professor suggesting something similar. I don’t know the source he used. It wasn’t stated as a fact, but rather that “it was likely” that this psalm was adopted by the Israelites from their Canaanite “neighbors”.

I know this isn’t very helpful but at least you know that such ideas do make the rounds.
Even if the psalm was canaanite in origin it wouldn’t be the first or the last time external cultural practices were adopted by the church and “baptized” as it were. The important thing is that the Psalm, as it was prayed by David and as is still prayed by Jews and Christians today, refers unambiguously to the God of Israel.
 
Even if the psalm was canaanite in origin it wouldn’t be the first or the last time external cultural practices were adopted by the church and “baptized” as it were. The important thing is that the Psalm, as it was prayed by David and as is still prayed by Jews and Christians today, refers unambiguously to the God of Israel.
I’m not questioning that at all. I’m just surprised by this idea.
 
Pope Benedict XVI , man I just can’t recall where I read this, anyway he was writing about the Jewish feasts being developements of nature worship cults.
 
Pope Benedict XVI , man I just can’t recall where I read this, anyway he was writing about the Jewish feasts being developements of nature worship cults.
The most obvious would be the feast of the Pentecost, which was a harvest feast. It makes one wonder at the accusation of non-Catholics who feel that the Catholic Church developed Her feasts out of a bastardization of heretical cults.
 
IIRC, I once saw an old translation of Psalm 110 which began “Ba’al said unto my ba’al…”, but I am not able to locate it at this time to verify this.
That’s odd, as the Hebrew itself has Na’um YHWH l’adoni, “YHWH said to my 'adoni…” That would not be a ‘translation’, but an ‘adaptation’ IMO.

Now for the Psalm:

1: Ascribe to YHWH, b’nai elim (“sons of gods,” “sons of God”), ascribe to YHWH glory and strength.
2: Ascribe to YHWH the glory of His Name; worship YHWH in holy adornment.
3: The voice of YHWH is over the water; El ha-kavod (“the God of glory”) thunders, YHWH is over many waters.
4: The voice of YHWH is strong; the voice of YHWH is majestic.
5: The voice of YHWH breaks the cedars; YHWH breaks the cedars of Lebanon.
6: He makes Lebanon skip like a calf and Sirion like a young re’em.
7: The voice of YHWH hews out flames of fire.
8: The voice of YHWH shakes the wilderness; YHWH shakes the wilderness of Qadesh.
9: The voice of YHWH gives premature birth to deer (or “twists the oaks”) and strips the forests bare; and in His temple, all of it says, “Glory!
10: YHWH sits enthroned over the flood; YHWH sits as King for ever.
11: YHWH gives strength to His people; YHWH blesses His people with peace.

The psalm contains references to storm (“the voice of YHWH”), which may have prompted the assumption that the psalm was either appropriated from an Canaanite hymn (the Psalm follows the pattern for a hymn found at the end of the Enuma Elish), or may have even been an Israelite parody/polemic mimicking Canaanite hymn patterns and inserting mythological references.

Those who postulate the Psalm 29=Ba’al theory usually point out to these:

The phrase b’nai elim (“sons of gods” or “sons of God”) occurs only in verse 1 and in Psalm 89:6. In Canaanite mythology the divine council of the high god El is referred to as “the sons of El.” (bn 'ilm) The OT apparently borrows the Canaanite phrase and applies it to the supernatural beings (usually interpreted as “angels”) that surround the heavenly throne.

Another would be the phrase mayim rabim (literally “many waters”) in verse 3. The theory is that the term mym rbm could be a motif that refers to Yam, the Ugaritic god of rivers and sea. Translating the phrase literally, it is certainly not a direct reference to Yam, but it is likely an allusion to the sea god, in light of the general literary patterns of the Psalm. By simply looking at these two phrases of Hebrew from Psalm 29, it shows that the psalmist had at least an understanding of the Canaanite pantheon, specifically El and Yam. Even so, this does not give any absolute proof of the effect of the Baal Cycle on the Hebrew Bible.

Psalm 29 makes specific mention of YHWH’s sevenfold thunder (“the voice of YHWH”). Some point a parallel to an event in the Baal Cycle in which Baal puts away his seven lightnings and thunders. The number seven is a significant number in both Canaanite and Israelite texts. The entire battle between Baal and the god of death, Mot son of El takes place over the course of seven years.

Later on in the Baal Cycle, Baal’s seven thunders become personified as his servants (some see specific passages such as Habakkuk 3 or Isaiah 6 as literary references to this).
 
That’s odd, as the Hebrew itself has Na’um YHWH l’adoni, “YHWH said to my 'adoni…” That would not be a ‘translation’, but an ‘adaptation’ IMO…
That’s certainly possible. I still can’t find the book with that version of the Psalm. I know exactly what book it is, it has a black and orange cover… but it’s not where it should be on the shelf.
 
That’s odd, as the Hebrew itself has Na’um YHWH l’adoni, “YHWH said to my 'adoni…” That would not be a ‘translation’, but an ‘adaptation’ IMO.

Now for the Psalm:

1: Ascribe to YHWH, b’nai elim (“sons of gods,” “sons of God”), ascribe to YHWH glory and strength.

*remainder snipped

Well done, Patrick. I was going to take a look at the Hebrew and summarize what I found, but you did a much better job than I would have done.

DaveBj​
 
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