Psalm 68:8-10 - Sons of Mary?

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Someone close to me has been devouring KJV info as of late. He is a long time ago fallen away Catholic.

In this passage, the mother would appear to be Mary as these verses deal with messianic prophecy of Jesus. The verse alludes to the “sons of my mother” (Douay). This friend of mine tells me that this proves that Mary had other sons.

How would I respond to this?
 
we are Mary’s sons and daughters

Mary is the mother of the Church as evident in John’s account of the crucifixition where Christ tells the beloved disciple to behold his mother and Mary to behold her son. At least these are the lines that I think along when I read this.
 
Does the Mother also represent also Israel?

The statement refers to Mary the Mother of the Church, but also the Church of which Mary is a typological symbol.
 
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Someone close to me has been devouring KJV info as of late. He is a long time ago fallen away Catholic.

In this passage, the mother would appear to be Mary as these verses deal with messianic prophecy of Jesus. The verse alludes to the “sons of my mother” (Douay). This friend of mine tells me that this proves that Mary had other sons.

How would I respond to this?
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In isolation, this Scripture passage from Psalm 69 (RSV) might be misunderstood that way but, since we know from Apostolic Tradition that Mary had no other children, this must be a reference to a more remote female ancestor, such as Abraham’s wife, Sarah, as elsewhere in Isaiah 51:2 the LORD refers to Abraham as the father of the Israelites and Sarah, his wife, as the mother of the Israelites, “Sarah, who gave you birth.” And so, the “sons” of the psalm refer to more distant relations and probably meant all the children of Israel.

Consider another Messianic passage:
10"And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of compassion and supplication, so that, when they look on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a first-born. (Zechariah 12:10)

Since Jesus, “him whom they have pierced,” was truly Mary’s “first-born” (Luke 2:7), does this Messianic passage not support the idea that Jesus was also truly Mary’s “only child” ?
 
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we are Mary’s sons and daughters

Mary is the mother of the Church as evident in John’s account of the crucifixition where Christ tells the beloved disciple to behold his mother and Mary to behold her son. At least these are the lines that I think along when I read this.
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We are if we do the Will of the Father of Jesus - that is the basis on which Jesus assesses relationship to His Father.​

Which means that descent from Abraham is based on Spirit, not flesh, and universalised, not kept for those born of Abraham by bodily descent: which is what Jesus was pointing in Luke 11. 27 ff.

To apply that Psalm to Jesus, we need also to use the values He teaches, such as this spiritualisation, & universalisation, of His Sonship of His Father. So the Psalm taken in a Christ-centred sense can’t be used to show he had brothers who were sons of Mary by bodily descent: that would be to mix up the un-Christ-centred family relationships, with the same relationships once they are Christ-centred. IOW, the interpretation that sees them as Jesus’ own bodily brothers, is trying to combine methods that don’t mix. ##
 
Another area of scripture that speaks of Mary as having other children in the sense of motherhood to all Christians is found in Revelation chapter 12. This Chapter harkens back to Genesis 3:15 and describes the woman, the ancient serpent, and Jesus the one who will defeat Satan. The woman can be properply understood to mean Mary because the three are definitely individuals. On another level the “woman” can also mean Israel or even the church.

In Rev 12:17 it says, “Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus.” Mary is thus described as the mother of those that keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus.
 
For starters, let’s not overlook the obvious fact that this is a psalm, after all. It is a poem used in Jewish worship for centuries before Jesus Christ was born.
I am not trying to dismiss the idea of prophetic material in the Psalms all together, but I think that to try to apply every little detail of this passage to Jesus is an enormous stretch. As has been pointed out, there are serious difficulties with other parts of the text being applied to the Lord.
Scripture always needs to be interpreted in context. Reading the whole psalm, without bending it to fit a preconceived notion, will show that, although there are certainly parts that act to prefigure our Lord, there are others which do not fit Him in the least…
Your friend is wresting the text to try to make it fit a specific interpretation, which the entirety of the passage does not suport.
 
We are all sons and daughters of God, we also are all brothers and sisters of and in Christ .

Brother or Brethen in the BIble could also mean kinsman.

(Deut. 23:7, Neh. 5:7, Jer. 34:9), in the reference to the forty-two “brethren” of King Azariah (2 Kings 10:13-14).

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