Q on converts and rites

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Is a non-apostolic to join a rite that is different than the one that he will regularly attend?

Would the conversion need to take place in a church of the rite that one would want to join?
 
Is a non-apostolic to join a rite that is different than the one that he will regularly attend?

Would the conversion need to take place in a church of the rite that one would want to join?
Depending on the Church the Convert is coming from (such as Greek Orthodox, Russian, Syriac Orthodox etc) they will be received into that Sui Juris Church, no matter what Church one is converting through. If somebody is converting to the Catholic Church from the Greek Orthodox faith in a Roman Church, they will automatically become Greek Catholic.

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Oh no, I mean like if a Protestant or non-Christians wants to convert.
 
Oh no, I mean like if a Protestant or non-Christians wants to convert.
If a Protestant or a convert becomes a Catholic they will become Roman Catholic. However they can switch rites which can take a large amount of time.

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? Why couldn’t a Protestant or other non-Catholic be able to convert directly into the rite of the church they plan to attend?
 
? Why couldn’t a Protestant or other non-Catholic be able to convert directly into the rite of the church they plan to attend?
If they want to be rite X but only live near rite Y, must they belong to rite Y?
 
If they want to be rite X but only live near rite Y, must they belong to rite Y?
And would that be different if they could once in a while (like a couple times a year) attend rite X like for confirmation/chrismation?
 
Church Ascription Upon Conversion from Fr. George Gallaro, a professor of canon law and ecumenism at the Byzantine Catholic Seminary of Ss. Cyril and Methodius.
“Protestants who enter into the full Catholic communion are to be ascribed to the Latin Church, since their Ecclesial Communities sprang from the Western/Latin tradition.”

If such a person then wanted to become a member of another rite, how much would they have to be able to attend Mass/DL at that other rite?
 
Many Latin Catholics attend churches of different rites as their church of choice and receive the sacraments there. Similarly, some Eastern Catholics attend Latin rite churches. I don’t think this could be described as “non-apostolic”. We’re still all one Church and these rites all have full approval from Rome.
 
“Protestants who enter into the full Catholic communion are to be ascribed to the Latin Church, since their Ecclesial Communities sprang from the Western/Latin tradition.”

If such a person then wanted to become a member of another rite, how much would they have to be able to attend Mass/DL at that other rite?
Generally, many of them receive their transfer immediately after reception because they took their instruction in the Eastern Rites.
 
Generally, many of them receive their transfer immediately after reception because they took their instruction in the Eastern Rites.
And taking instruction in a Rite would require being there on a regular basis?
 
Church Ascription Upon Conversion from Fr. George Gallaro, a professor of canon law and ecumenism at the Byzantine Catholic Seminary of Ss. Cyril and Methodius.
🤷 technalities. I am sure there are ways to shorten/work around these procedures which, after all, primarily consist of various forms to be filled out and signed (I know because I’ve gone through them!).

if a Protestant or other non-Catholic has been attending and participating in an Eastern rite parish for a substantial amount of time, and that’s where they’ve learned about the Faith and that’s the reason they want to convert, I can’t see them being told, “Fine, but first you have to go to the Latin Rite parish on the other side of town for six months and go through RCI.” Canon laws are written for man, not man for the canon laws.
 
Generally, many of them receive their transfer immediately after reception because they took their instruction in the Eastern Rites.
I took a lot of time finding out the answer to this question, in large part because of you, Aramis, but I finally have the answer thanks to a friend of mine who was baptized Episcopalian (obviously Latin in tradition, then - less ambiguous than my baptism, through a non-denominational charismatic church), and chrismated Ruthenian Catholic.

Father Robert Pipta, the vocations director for the Eparchy of Phoenix had this to say to a friend of mine who asked the question:

“In asking our Bishop to guide us to clarification on this matter, he
responded in an e-mail (a few years ago now) that his interpretation is
that if one is Chrismated as part of his being received into the Catholic
Church from a non-Catholic denomination, then he becomes canonically a
member of the ritual church in which he is Chrismated.”

As far as Bishop Gerald is concerned, any Protestant who is received into the Catholic Church by the Eparchy of Phoenix is canonically Ruthenian Catholic.

I am afraid that I have to go with my bishop on this one, as opposed to Fr. Gallaro.
 
I took a lot of time finding out the answer to this question, in large part because of you, Aramis, but I finally have the answer thanks to a friend of mine who was baptized Episcopalian (obviously Latin in tradition, then - less ambiguous than my baptism, through a non-denominational charismatic church), and chrismated Ruthenian Catholic.

Father Robert Pipta, the vocations director for the Eparchy of Phoenix had this to say to a friend of mine who asked the question:

“In asking our Bishop to guide us to clarification on this matter, he
responded in an e-mail (a few years ago now) that his interpretation is
that if one is Chrismated as part of his being received into the Catholic
Church from a non-Catholic denomination, then he becomes canonically a
member of the ritual church in which he is Chrismated.”

As far as Bishop Gerald is concerned, any Protestant who is received into the Catholic Church by the Eparchy of Phoenix is canonically Ruthenian Catholic.

I am afraid that I have to go with my bishop on this one, as opposed to Fr. Gallaro.
I’m well aware of this for Phoenix - but there’s not much outside the Ruthenian Church to support that view, and a lot to the contrary.
 
Oh no, I mean like if a Protestant or non-Christians wants to convert.
A non-Christian adult (age 14 or greater) can choose Catholic church sui iuris, otherwise the closest equivalent which is the Latin for non-apostolic Christians is the church of enrollment (regardless of which Catholic church sui iuris receives the faithful).
 
A non-Christian adult (age 14 or greater) can choose Catholic church sui iuris, otherwise the closest equivalent which is the Latin for non-apostolic Christians is the church of enrollment (regardless of which Catholic church sui iuris receives the faithful).
So they are not obligated to join the Latin rite? And if they are not able to be regularly catechized at a sui iuris church, are they still able to join that rite?
 
So they are not obligated to join the Latin rite? And if they are not able to be regularly catechized at a sui iuris church, are they still able to join that rite?
No. The CCEO canon law states the unbaptized of age fourteen or greater may choose to be “enrolled by virtue of baptism received in that same Church”:Can. 30 - Quilibet baptizandus, qui decimum quartum aetatis annum explevit, libere potest seligere quamcumque Ecclesiam sui iuris, cui per baptismum in eadem susceptum ascribitur, salvo iure particulari a Sede Apostolica statuto.

Can. 30 - Anyone to be baptized, who has completed the fourteenth year of age, can freely select any Church sui iuris, in which he or she then is enrolled by virtue of baptism, received in that same Church, with due regard for particular law established by the Apostolic See.
 
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