Both, but apparently Arius and his followers didn’t care about either. As he kept up his teaching and Arianism survived until finally suppressed by various means, including military, in the 7th century.
You’ll have to explain how that verse excludes Catholics from salvation.
Not sure any of that has been agreed upon for a thousand years.
Why would I try to exclude anyone from salvation?
I didn’t say you did. Perhaps I should have separated my last sentence from my rhetorical comment about some Catholics
True.
If by “western non-Catholics” you mean “non-Catholic Christians in the west”, the majority of that group by both membership and denomination count is roughly evangelical in nature. The classic “mainline” protestant groups have been in decline for longer than I’ve been alive (and I’m not young). It turns out that when you become that liberal, you likely just stop attending church (nothwithstanding a few conservative splits still trying to hold on). Poisoned by their own “progress”.
Not sure how this has anything to do with the question of the thread. Just st remember that every single break in the western Church includes Rome. Baptists, for instance, as as much divided from Catholics as the are from Anglicans.True.
It would appear to the outside observer that there has been some schism in Christendom since at least the 5th century with a small increase in the 11th-14th. Then the number of divisions began to explode in the 16th.
I wonder what occurred in the 16th century and what novel doctrines emerged to promote the exponential acceleration of intra-faith conflict.
“…and you shall know them by their fruit.”