Question about the crusades

[Dave18]

I read somewhere that during the first crusade, the Pope at the time anounced that all christians who would fight would have their current sins forgivien.

Did the Pope mean protestants too? And if he did, why would they fight? I thought they didn’t acknowledge the Pope’s authority.

 

[requiemaeturnum]

There was no such thing as Protestantism back then. To be Christian was to be Catholic.

“If any man should set out not for monetary gain or for personal fame, to liberate the Church of God in Jerusalem, then his journey shall be reckoned in place of all penance”

Indulgence Decree of Clement

 

[1ke]

The First Crusade took place in 1095. There were no protestants. The Pope was addressing all of Christendom (Europe) and all of Christendom was Catholic.

I suggest you read up on the subject. Hilaire Belloc has an excellent book on the Crusades and Warren Carol’s History of Christendom series is excellent.

 

[CentralFLJames]

I think we could say in some sense, that Islam, a new religion that was formed about 600 years after Christ was in direct cultural protest to Christianity and in some sense an early Protestantism or Arabian centric me-too religion.

Islam definately accepts parts of truth of Christianity but rejectes many others. For example Islam promotes the anti-Christian notion that Christ was merely a prophet (lessor than Mohammad) and not divine. Islam also rejects the orthodox Christian belief that Jesus died and was risen.

It is plain to see that Mohammad used portions of Coptic Christian and Jewish scriptural texts (stolen, purchased or plagiarized) and popular Arabian mythology to construct the man made religion of Islam. Eventually, contrary to the revisionist history that the liberals want us to believe that Christian were the aggressors the Islamics were the clear aggressors. Islamics routinely attacked the Christians who would rather die than convert to their man made faith. Islamics invaded Jerusalem, turned holy places into public urinals and put the Christians into a subordinate slave status. No Catholic was permitted to worship in Jerusalem unless they payed the Islamic rulers a special tax and openly became submissive to Muslims as 2nd class citizens.

To answer your question - no, these Islamic Protestants did not get any indulgences for fighting against Catholics who were there trying to liberate their fellow Catholics and reclaim the defiled Holy City for Christendom. Indulgences only work for those who are in purgatory and not in hell.

James

 

[promethius]

“If any man should set out not for monetary gain or for personal fame, to liberate the Church of God in Jerusalem, then his journey shall be reckoned in place of all penance”

Indulgence Decree of Clement

I think it’s terribly important to note here that the indulgence was for remission of PENANCE and NOT for forgiveness of sins, as the original poster seems to think. There’s a severe difference between the two statements.

 

[JonW]

Hilaire Belloc has an excellent book on the Crusades and Warren Carol’s History of Christendom series is excellent.

I’ve been reading Carol’s first volume. It is indeed an excellent resource for all Christians, and all historians.

God Bless

Jon Winterburn