Question about the Fall of Man

[The_Exodus]

I’ve been reading a lot of the Summa Theologica, particularly about the Fall of Man/Original Justice. If Aquinas is right and the first humans were created in a state where all passions were completely subject to reason, and there was no evil concupiscence in man, how was he “tempted” and, more importantly, how did he consent to sin? If he could not even experience any desire to sin, why would he have eaten the fruit?

Any light on this question would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Julian0404]

The temptation for man came from the evil one, who has a greater intellect and is stronger than man, but who first fell in heaven. Therefore, if you consider for a moment the state of the angels before they fell, i.e. filled with grace, living in heaven, filled with the knowledge of God and yet despite that proximity and intimacy with God, they chose to follow Satan; how much easier it would be for Satan to convince man to follow the same sin that Satan convinced the fallen angels to chose, i.e. “to be LIKE God”.

Pride is the source of ALL sin. My way, when I want it, how I want it, for as long as I want it, because I want it.
Confession requires humility. It is embarrasing and humiliating to go before God’s priest and confess our sins. It is the exact opposite of pride/sin.
If we embrace humility we defeat Satan, and all of his Pride, which he desperately wants us to hold fast too. I am to good to be second place. I am to smart to listen to others. I am to wise to be fooled. I deserve to keep my money, let the poor get a job.

Our salvation is found in our love and our humility, not our intellect or wisdom, which is connected directly to our pride.

 

[James_S_Saint]

I am glad to see Aquinas say that. He was right.

Ahdam was not created to be so intelligent that he could know all things.

Although Ahdam was created without presumption or sin, he cannot live without presumption and thus must eventually fall to error, sin. He absolutely must presume at times - guess and act upon his guess. Presumption is a neceassary state of life yet is the very seed of sin (error), even more so than pride/ego.

Presumption is most tempted by the lust to obtain more power, to be “as God” in dictating what is or is not Truth and thus this was his fall because although to the limited mind it appears as though one can be as God and dictate Truth, he can never truly be God and cannot hide forever his deception behind olive leaves.

He did not “consent to sin” exactly. He could not clearly see past the guile that tempts the blindness from lust. He presumed to take what was too pleasing to not attempt.

Man is doing it all over again today.