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Kamalayka
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Go to youtube, and search “Eucharistic Miracles.”
What do the skeptics here make it?
What do the skeptics here make it?
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Leela
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What do I make of it? If I took it at face value I would have to conclude that blood occasionally oozes from wafers. If I accepted that, what should I think such a fact means? That Christianity is true? But if I accepted that these miracles are real wouldn’t I have to accept a lot of other second hand accounts of miracles based on the same sort of evidence that people of other religions claim validate their religions as the one true religion?Go to youtube, and search “Eucharistic Miracles.”
What do the skeptics here make it?
I’m not even sure what a miracle is supposed to be. If something amazing happens that can be explained it is not a miracle? But if something mundane happens and can’t be explained it is a miracle? What happens if it is later explained? How do I distinguished between something that simply can’t ever be explained and something that we just can’t explain right now?
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Leela
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While you are searching Youtube, try looking up the so-called “living god” Sai Baba. This guy has literally millions of followers who believe that he can do all sorts of miracles and was born of a virgin. Should I believe these millions of eye witnesses?
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AnAtheist
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The makers of the first hit in the result list took the music from Jurassic Park. If it’s real blood it could be used for cloning, and we see what happens.Go to youtube, and search “Eucharistic Miracles.”
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liquidpele
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Search on youtube for “Penn and Teller” and you’ll see much more intriguing things.Go to youtube, and search “Eucharistic Miracles.”
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johngh
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hahaha, very nice joke.Search on youtube for “Penn and Teller” and you’ll see much more intriguing things.
Honestly though, how can anyone take Penn and Teller seriously? Their TV show is very appropriately named, because they are so full of it.
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liquidpele
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While that would have been a good joke, I actually wasn’t referring to that show, I was referring to their magic tricks. They are very good magicians after all. My point being that people are easily fooled, confused, and manipulated. Some blood on a cracker is hardly something I would consider miraculous - far less interesting than anything most magicians do. The reason people pay any attention to it at all is because of their preconceived notions surrounding the situation and the emotional response that they have because of the subject. That’s not to say that it’s necessarily a bad thing, if it inspires you to do good then that’s great… I’m just saying that being inspired does not equate to seeing a miracle.hahaha, very nice joke.
Honestly though, how can anyone take Penn and Teller seriously? Their TV show is very appropriately named, because they are so full of it.
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Hubriss
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Hah, the Penn and Teller thing reminds me of this skit related to the question:
youtube.com/watch?v=0KSLRjDR4aQ
On the question of Eucharistic miracles, I’m not really impressed with them. They don’t do anything that really has an affect on anything. The whole purpose of them is to support a particular religion, so I see them as political or religious propaganda at best. It’s the same with supposedly preserved bodies of saints that have not decomposed while they are kept in air-tight containers and have wax over their skin. So I put them in the same boat as a grilled cheese sandwich with a picture of Mary burnt on it.
Now, if these Eucharistic miracles happened all the time, everywhere during mass, I would be slightly impressed. Or if they could be reproduced under controlled conditions.
youtube.com/watch?v=0KSLRjDR4aQ
On the question of Eucharistic miracles, I’m not really impressed with them. They don’t do anything that really has an affect on anything. The whole purpose of them is to support a particular religion, so I see them as political or religious propaganda at best. It’s the same with supposedly preserved bodies of saints that have not decomposed while they are kept in air-tight containers and have wax over their skin. So I put them in the same boat as a grilled cheese sandwich with a picture of Mary burnt on it.
Now, if these Eucharistic miracles happened all the time, everywhere during mass, I would be slightly impressed. Or if they could be reproduced under controlled conditions.
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Matthias123
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Most of those pictures are from a place in Korea. These are not miracles from God – as he does not make mucus come out of the noses of statues, and he does not make statues of Our Lady vomit fountains of blood. If God is going perform a miracle, it will be a humble sign to confirm a certain theological teaching, that has already been revealed through the paschal mystery. The Catholic Church in Korea has forbiden catholics to go into the town that those “miracles” are occuring, because we are under the opinion that they are produced by the demonic.
If the “miracle” draws attention to the miracle itself and does not serve as a sign to reinforce a truth, it is done by the diabolical.
If the “miracle” draws attention to the miracle itself and does not serve as a sign to reinforce a truth, it is done by the diabolical.
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