Question for Jews: Rebuilding the Temple?

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I think that the question of the rebuiding of the Temple, though not having sense in the Christian theology, brings in light a fondamental aspect of the forgiveness of sins in Judaism.
Having spoken about that subject with several Jews, many told me how much the uncertaincy of forgiveness due to the absence of the Temple was a great grief…

What do our Jewish friends deal with that dimension in their relationship with G-d?
 
Very interesting. I really appreciate your sharing this information with those of us ignorant of aspects of Judaism. It has certainly been illuminating. 🙂

I don’t know if you forgot to answer this, but is it integral to the Jewish faith that the Temple be rebuilt? The reason I ask, is because I have heard some Jews say that it would be nice if it were rebuilt, but it would not necessarily matter if it were not.

Also, if the temple were to be rebuilt, would animals be used as sacrifices? It wouldn’t matter to me, but I know radical groups who care more about animals than people (PETA comes to mind) would be up in arms.

In Christ,
Andrew
It is integral to the Jewish faith (not sure about the Reform movement) that the Temple will be rebuilt. I’ve always wondered why, to the extent that the commandment to build the Temple was fullfilled and I’m not sure what requires us to fulfill it again. I think I came up with the answer several years ago, but like the ending to so many Dean Koontz books, it escapes me at the moment.

There have been sages in Judaism who do not believe animal sacrifices will be needed to be resumed. Rambam himself was not a fan of resuming sacrifices but wrote about the laws involved, just in case his opinion is not followed.
 
I think that the question of the rebuiding of the Temple, though not having sense in the Christian theology, brings in light a fondamental aspect of the forgiveness of sins in Judaism.
Having spoken about that subject with several Jews, many told me how much the uncertaincy of forgiveness due to the absence of the Temple was a great grief…

What do our Jewish friends deal with that dimension in their relationship with G-d?
Prayer, acts of kindness, study, T’shuva.
 
I remember reading about some Rabbi who wants to build a temple across from the Dome on the Rock. Of course this (at least with the current situation) would create havoc for Jewish-Muslim relations but there is plenty of room up there. I wonder though if there are specific religious objections to that. Is there anything saying that two faiths cant occupy the same place? My guess would be probably.
 
I remember reading about some Rabbi who wants to build a temple across from the Dome on the Rock. Of course this (at least with the current situation) would create havoc for Jewish-Muslim relations but there is plenty of room up there. I wonder though if there are specific religious objections to that. Is there anything saying that two faiths cant occupy the same place? My guess would be probably.
The Temple has to be built in the same place it once stood. As far as we know, that is the place now occupied by the Dome.
 
It is integral to the Jewish faith (not sure about the Reform movement) that the Temple will be rebuilt. I’ve always wondered why, to the extent that the commandment to build the Temple was fullfilled and I’m not sure what requires us to fulfill it again. I think I came up with the answer several years ago, but like the ending to so many Dean Koontz books, it escapes me at the moment.
Is it this? : a pursuit for the perfect Red Heifer with which some Protestant Evangelicals for their own particular (non-Catholic) apocalyptic reasons have joined forces with some Jews to attempt to raise?

It was in our country’s National Newspaper in Canada not too long ago and here from National Review by Rod Dreher:
"To Jews who adhere to ancient tradition, whose number include religious Israeli nationalists, the long-awaited Messiah will return to become the king of Israel and high priest of a rebuilt Temple, which can only be on Temple Mount. For Christian fundamentalists, Jesus Christ’s return at the height of the battle of Armageddon, in which forces of the Antichrist clash in Israel with a 200 million-man army from the East, will require a Third Temple from which the Lord will begin a millennial reign. And for Muslims, an Antichrist figure called the Dajal will be a Jew who will lead an all-encompassing war against Islam, which will culminate in the return of Jesus (as a Muslim prophet), the Kaaba, or Sacred Rock in Mecca, transporting itself to Jerusalem, and final judgment in the valley just below the Noble Sanctuary.

“What happens at that one spot, more than anywhere else, quickens expectations of the End in three religions. And at that spot, the danger of provoking catastrophe is greatest,” writes Israeli journalist Gershom Gorenberg in The End of Days, his 2000 book about the apocalyptic struggle over the Temple Mount.

So how does the calf recently born in Israel figure into things? As Gorenberg explains, the ashes of a flawless red heifer — an extremely rare creature — were required by the ancient Hebrews to purify worshipers who went into the Temple to pray. In modern times, rabbinical law forbids Jews from setting foot on the Temple Mount, thus violating the site where the Holy of Holies dwelled, until and unless they are ritually purified. Without a perfect red heifer to sacrifice, the Third Temple cannot be built, and Moshiach — the Messiah — will not come. Writes Gorenberg, “[Israeli] government officials and military leaders could only regard the requirement for the missing heifer as a stroke of sheer good fortune preventing conflict over the Mount.”

In 1996, thanks in part to a cattle-breeding program set up in Israel with the help of Texas ranchers who are fundamentalist Christians, a red heifer was born. There was immense excitement among messianists of the Israeli religious Right, and their American Christian counterparts. The world media covered it as a joke, but it wasn’t funny to David Landau, columnist for the Israeli daily Haaretz. He called the red heifer “a four-legged bomb” that could “set the entire region on fire.” Muslim leaders worried about the red heifer too, as they would see an attempt by Jews to take over the Temple Mount as a sign of the Islamic apocalypse.

As it turned out, during the three years of waiting for the heifer to reach the ritually mandated age of sacrifice, white hairs popped out on the tip of her tail."

read more: nationalreview.com/dreher/dreher041102.asp

Heifer or no, what would the Muslims say? I have no idea of these things as I do not follow Fundamentalist Protestant Apocalyptism much with John Hagee and his cohorts.
 
All of this makes me think of apparition/seer oriented fringe Catholics who were ‘pushing God’s hand’ regarding the conversion of Russia, by using a personal idea by Bishop Sheen…He said he foresaw the day when the statue of Our Lady of Fatima would be in Red Square…

So these people got the Pilgrim Statue and flew it to Moscow, I think in 1989 or 1990, and placed it at Red Square.

I think the Evangelicals are doing the same thing, taking the place of the Holy Spirit and trying to make things happen…and it appears sensational…

Our God is the God of reason and everything is under His control, not ours.
 
Very interesting. I really appreciate your sharing this information with those of us ignorant of aspects of Judaism. It has certainly been illuminating. 🙂

I don’t know if you forgot to answer this, but is it integral to the Jewish faith that the Temple be rebuilt? The reason I ask, is because I have heard some Jews say that it would be nice if it were rebuilt, but it would not necessarily matter if it were not.

Also, if the temple were to be rebuilt, would animals be used as sacrifices? It wouldn’t matter to me, but I know radical groups who care more about animals than people (PETA comes to mind) would be up in arms.

In Christ,
Andrew
Btw, there is a jewish belief that when Elijha returns, he will clarify who is a Kohane
 
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