Question with Women and Abortion

[ALLGIRLS]

The sarcasm was not really needed (referring to the smoking comment) but whatever - anyway -I would love to see where you got your information that abortion causes emotional harm 100% (or is likely to cause it) of the time- I’ve never seen it and I know for a fact at least 3 that have had no problems with it and there is actually a group of people, I have a friend who is a member who have gotten together - the’ve give their group a name something like - I don’t regret my abortion(I won’t give out the full name as I’ve been asked not to give out any more information regarding it as they don’t want any hecklers or others that just want to debate them)

I didn’t say it caused it 100%, I specifically said it DIDN’T cause it 100% of the time, just like smoking doesn’t cause cancer, emphysemia, or COPD 100% of the time, either, but we still tell people not to smoke. So why can’t we tell women abortion may cause them emotional harm?

In Christ,

Ellen

 

[whatevergirl]

The sarcasm was not really needed (referring to the smoking comment) but whatever - anyway -I would love to see where you got your information that abortion causes emotional harm 100% (or is likely to cause it) of the time- I’ve never seen it and I know for a fact at least 3 that have had no problems with it and there is actually a group of people, I have a friend who is a member who have gotten together - the’ve give their group a name something like - I don’t regret my abortion(I won’t give out the full name as I’ve been asked not to give out any more information regarding it as they don’t want any hecklers or others that just want to debate them)

*Sometimes people lie to themselves, to avoid stark realities, and pain. Sometimes people also don’t like to reveal their pain to others, also. It can really be that simple. *

 

[whatevergirl]

*Here’s a real life example…I lost my parents when I was 9 (my dad died) 10 (my mom died). People at school knew this obviously, friends and family, but I didn’t even grieve for their losses for YEARS afterwards. Looking back, NO ONE in college was the wiser, and many who met me who found out about this after knowing me a while, said I seemed so…’‘unaffected’’ I think the word was. So, there you go. Pain, grieving, and loss are very painful…people like to bury it or act like whatever happened to them, didn’t affect them. So, like these women who appear ‘‘unaffected,’’ it would be complete hypothethis to say that they are not. For a woman to really come to terms with what an abortion means, what she allowed to happen to her own baby, that is very painful. It’s a reality that I would imagine many want to stuff away, as though nothing happened. A life was taken, and I can’t imagine these women not being affected. To the outside world, they just don’t want anyone to see their pain. Again, it can be as simple (and complex) as that. Just my two cents. *

 

[rwillenborg]

Ryecroft,

May I respectfully, but firmly reply to some of the concerns raised?

First, it may well be that some of these women are glad to have had their abortions. There are many people who have committed murder who are glad that they did it. That, perhaps is the most profound suffering of all, the deadening of a conscience. It is a greater harm than the depression and remorse felt by others. So I would say that all women who have abortions suffer greatly. The worst cases are those who are impervious to the damage done to their psyches, and their souls.

Let’s visit the issue of a woman who got her education thanks to an abortion. I, as a college professor and microbiologist, have taught women in nursing schools who were pregnant, had infants, small children, teens and grown children. The necessity of abortion to further one’s education is a lie, a comforting one for those who did so. Comforting as it is, it is a lie. It was not necessary.

Yes, I would argue that all women suffer from having had abortions. The worst affected don’t feel it.

 

[dashso40]

*Here’s a real life example…I lost my parents when I was 9 (my dad died) 10 (my mom died). People at school knew this obviously, friends and family, but I didn’t even grieve for their losses for YEARS afterwards. Looking back, NO ONE in college was the wiser, and many who met me who found out about this after knowing me a while, said I seemed so…’‘unaffected’’ I think the word was. So, there you go. Pain, grieving, and loss are very painful…people like to bury it or act like whatever happened to them, didn’t affect them. So, like these women who appear ‘‘unaffected,’’ it would be complete hypothethis to say that they are not. For a woman to really come to terms with what an abortion means, what she allowed to happen to her own baby, that is very painful. It’s a reality that I would imagine many want to stuff away, as though nothing happened. A life was taken, and I can’t imagine these women not being affected. To the outside world, they just don’t want anyone to see their pain. Again, it can be as simple (and complex) as that. Just my two cents. *

It is so true, many people hide their true feelings…When something bad happens to us, it’s human nature to say “oh, it’s nothing”…I’ll get over it"…Than, months or years later, you get post traumatic stress disorder…it’s real…it used to be called “shell shock”…referring to the soldiers who came home from war…

 

[whatevergirl]

It is so true, many people hide their true feelings…When something bad happens to us, it’s human nature to say “oh, it’s nothing”…I’ll get over it"…Than, months or years later, you get post traumatic stress disorder…it’s real…it used to be called “shell shock”…referring to the soldiers who came home from war…

*Yes, exactly. Kids of abusive parents, kids who have been molested, etc…all go through something similiar. It’s human to want to bury our pain. *

 

[rwillenborg]

To the OP…you wonder why people stress the psychological harm that an abortion causes…
If I may take a guess…
I pray at abortion clinics.
I carry a sign that reads ‘I regret my abortion’.
Mostly I do this in the late evening hours, after work.
And, more often than I care to count, women have stopped their cars to talk to me.
Sometimes they tell me their names. Sometimes they don’t. Mostly they just cry and say things like ‘If only I had realized at the time…I’ve never told a soul…nobody would understand.’ and then we chat for a while, I offer some words and resources, and they drive home. I would suppose that still, with the exception now of me, no one will ever know how much those women regret their decision.
So, yeah, you don’t have to hear a ton of stories like that before you start to realize what a very bad idea this abortion business is.

Oh, and by the way, I felt pretty darn smart about my abortion until about fifteen years after the fact. Fifteen YEARS. That’s when it hit me. And now, I get to live with a lifetime of regret. That’s what I get to keep from all of this. I had the abortion so that I could finish college. Because my boyfriend would be mad. Because my parents would be disappointed. And you know what? I don’t even LIKE what my degree is in, that boyfriend turned out to be a tool, and I now realize that my parents would have forgiven me. So, there you have it. All of the ‘really good’ reasons for having my abortion turned out to be fleeting trivialities, but the regret from that decision, that, I get to keep. It is neither fleeting nor trivial. And it pains me. I had other friends who got pregnant inconveniently. They chose to have their children. And you know what? They have no regrets about their choice.
Funny how that works.
Why would I NOT try to educate women on the dangers of an abortion? Wouldn’t I be a scoundrel if I stayed home, knowing that women were out there about to make the biggest mistake of their lives?
Every milestone my children reach, I realize that they had a sibling who would have paved the way for them. Except I killed her. I killed my children’s big sister. I OWN that. That was MY choice, as the pro-abortion side is so quick to remind me.
And they’re right. So, now, every Christmas when I hang stockings, I realize there should be one more. Except I killed her. Every family trip, I realize there is someone missing from the pictures. Except I killed her. Do you see what I’m saying? I’m saying I get no peace, and I don’t know if I ever will. At least not while I have breath in my lungs.
So, I hope you understand that women like me MUST speak out about the dangers of abortion.
Because for all of your friends who are giddy over killing their children, I promise you there are ten more who wish they had chosen very differently.
God bless.
My prayers to you and your friends.

 

[Puddin317]

Speaking first hand, the trauma after abortion is very real and occurs every day in my life. I’m just now seaking help and healing after 20+ years. Anyone who thinks anyone can have an abortion and be “fine” is lying to themselves.

 

[Gerard_Nadal]

Puddin317,

God Bless you and keep you close to His heart as you work through your grief on the road to healing and wholeness. I’m sure that you are in a good program. If you do not know already, there are several excellent healing ministries such as Lumina (Catholic) and Rachel’s Vineyard, as well as Silent No More.

Don’t yield to despair. Your baby advocates for you ceaselessly before the Throne of Grace, and as Pope John PaulII said, “God’s Might is Forgiveness.”

Speaking on behalf of your brothers in the pro-life movement, we surround you with our prayers and lift you up in our love and admiration. God Bless you.