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In an 1883 work published in The Month a William Loughnan presents a line of reasoning and apologetics that I find profound.

In the middle of it ( page 467 ) he makes the following quote of Luther which I have not been able to locate, he doesn’t give a source.

“As true as that the Lord Christ has redeemed me, I did not myself know what an Indulgence was”.
books.google.com/books?id=P7kZAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA467#v=onepage&q=&f=false

If anyone has heard of this or similar comments and can point me to a source I’d appreciate it.
 
Vincent_L said:
If anyone has heard of this or similar comments and can point me to a source I’d appreciate it.
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This quote has been cited from Martin Luther’s Tischreden (“Table Talk”) writings. I have seen this quote attributed particularly to the Erlanger Ausgabe (Erlanger Edition) of Luther’s works, Vol 26, #50,51. But I have not found an English-language translation of this particular collection of his works. A brief inquiry into an English-language translation of Table Talk (but not specifically of the Erlanger Edition) did not discover such a quote. But, I do not know how the volumes of the Erlanger collection are divided (there were quite a lot of volumes - a WikiQuote article cites a volume #63, so there were at least that many volumes - much more than the number of “chapters” in Luther’s Table talk), so I did not know specifically where to look in this English language resource (and I was unwilling to plow through the whole thing).
 
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I’d like to know the details.

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Specifically the portion dealing with why the Church was facing the issues it was. The fact that they were having trouble with bishops and such serving as rulers and such was not due to the Church’s desire but rather the encroachment upon the Church by various kings who were appointing them. The Church was trying to reform this long before the protestant revolt.

He pointed out the extremely ironic position of condemning the Church for having bishops partly subject to kings, which indeed was problematic, and the solution that Luther was teaching that the Church should be fully a subject of the state. ( Which was a major point of his writings in 1520. )
 
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