Quoting mystics like Rumi

[Spyridon]

CIC 749, §2a:

“The college of bishops also possesses infallibility in teaching when the bishops gathered together in an ecumenical council exercise the magisterium as teachers and judges of faith and morals who declare for the universal Church that a doctrine of faith or morals is to be held definitively.”

Lumen Gentium #25, paragraph 2:

“Although the individual bishops do not enjoy the prerogative of infallibility, they nevertheless proclaim Christ’s doctrine infallibly whenever, even though dispersed through the world, but still maintaining the bond of communion among themselves and with the successor of Peter, and authentically teaching matters of faith and morals, they are in agreement on one position as definitively to be held. This is even more clearly verified when, gathered together in an ecumenical council, they are teachers and judges of faith and morals for the universal Church, whose definitions must be adhered to with the submission of faith.”

Can you quote any official Church document which says Catholics are free to dissent from the documents of VII, or that those documents are not infallible even? Other than garbage you can find on the web from SSPX type dissident groups?

 

[Sunbreak]

Rumi was considered a Sufi mystic but primarily a poet. He has some beautiful poetry. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with appreciating good poetry. For example, one poem starts out “What the material world values does not shine the same in the truth of the soul.” There’s nothing in that statement that is against Catholic teaching.

 

[Shakuhachi]

That is a pretty good definition IMHO.

Mystics of all faiths take us beyond the intellect. From there things can go anywhere. Don’t read them for facts or information. Read them for inspiration. I have not read much Rumi. I have read more Aurobindo and Indian mystics.

 

[Seagull]

I actually have a Rumi dvd. It’s a fun watch. I enjoy poetry. I see it similar to watching Bill Moyers interviewing Joseph Campbell. It’s a fun watch. But I only quote from the Bible. And Lord knows, I want no one to quote me - lol - esp. ‘trusted’ coworkers.