Quran VS Bible

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I thought I read somewhere that the Quran was actually contained in parts of our Christian bible? When was the Quran written? I have a freind who says the bible has changed over the years and the Quran has never changed a single syllable. Help.:confused:
 
I’m no expert on Islam, so whether or not the Qu’ran changed I do not know. But, the Qu’ran itself was written more than six hundred years after the time of Christ. So obviously the Bible doesn’t contain things from the Qu’ran, the Qu’ran contains things from the Bible!

In Christ,

The Augustinian
 
my friend is Agnostic, currentley. he is searching continually for a reiligion which he believes to be a “true religion”. He has already told me that christianity is not for him. I quote
Basically, and here’s my one sentence philosophy on why Christianity isn’t for me.
I don’t want to devote my life to a religion where the holy book is a lot of nonsense. Any impartial pastor/reverend etc; will tell you that the bible is in fact a bunch of mis represented material

that was his response to me when I asked him why Christianity was not for him. how would you deal with that?
he also says
I did Qu’ran research along with Bible, because Islam was my next choice of religion.
summing up a good writing of the comparisons between Bible and Qu’ran, most everyone agrees that both stemmed from each other
the Bible didn’t come directly from Jesus
the Qur’an came directly from mohammed.

i am very confused about this. does anyone have any suggestions?
 
The Qu’ran contains many biblical ideas. One of them is that both Mary and Jesus were the only sinless ones to walk this earth! There is a passage in the Qu’ran or one of the many ‘writings’ of Mohammed that state that if a person is confused as to what the Qu’ran teaches, that they should consult the bible!

Mohammed was an illiterate person. The person who wrote down Mohammed’s words which he claimed came from divine revelation, was a cousin. The cousin was a Catholic priest…which of course, would explain why there was a lot of biblical information as well as the plain fact that the priest was literate.

There is much written on both the bible and the Qu’ran. There are many sites that contain information.

Your friend may like the simplicity of the Islamic religion - there are only five pillars to it and it is not as controversial as the Christian religion.

The bible has changed throughout the years - with Luther adding the word “alone” as well as others taking books out of the original cannon and translations having brought forth new meaning.

Mohammed teaches that he was the last prophet of God. Mohammed teaches that Jesus was a good teacher - but not the Son of God - so he taught a heresy.

I would continue to discuss religion with your friend - continue to challenge his beliefs in charity and pray, pray for him!

God Bless
 
the bible has changed somewhat, the Qur’an has never changed,
it has just been shortened a tad. The bible is the virtual gum pit, everyone adds a little bit…
another kicker, the Qur’an was voice…then Arabic and Aramaic. But, the Arabic came years after the voice…and Aramaic came after Arabic, so more logically if one copied the other…it would have had to have been the bible copying the Qu’ran

and its Qari’ (Protectors, or speakers) had to learn every single part of it, eveyr single syllable

the qur’an couldn’t have been fudged, the bible could have

the Bible has been morphed quite a bit though

And this all pays back to my belief that a Religion should at least have a holy book that is still mostly alike to when it was originally

so there can be no mis interpretation with the Qur’an
this is my friends defense for the Quran. oh, and could you tell me what those websites were, chimakuni? thank you for your help
 
Your friend’s history seems to be backwards! First of all - the Qu’ran was not written until AFTER the bible! That is fact - that is history. The bible was pulled together around 300 AD. The Qu’ran was written from 610 to 622, that is when Mohammed was having his revelations. That is fact.

Here are some sites…answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Contra/, carm.org/islam/Bibletokoran.htm
The second site that I put in will give you the quotes from the Qu’ran that say that the bible is the last authority - is not corrupt.

There is so much research one can do to learn about both religions! Just type in Qu’ran and of course, Catholic Answers Forum is a great place to check things out as well.

God Bless
 
Your friend’s statement about Arabic and Aramaic makes no sense whatever. Arabic was not used as a written language until the time of the Qur’an, as far as I know. Hebrew and Aramaic had been used for centuries before that. No one disputes that the Qur’an was written (or, in Muslim terms, revealed to Mohammed) in the seventh century–more than 500 years after the last sections of the Bible were written, and at least a couple of centuries after the earliest existing manuscripts of the complete New Testament. So even if your friend wants to take an extremely skeptical line about the possibility that the Biblical texts were corrupted, any such corruption would have to have taken place before the Qur’an.

It’s true that the texts of the New Testament do vary quite a bit. Most of the differences are minor, but there are several sections that don’t appear in some manuscripts, and a few significant readings that differ from one manuscript to another (“he who was manifest in the flesh” vs. “God was manifest in the flesh,” for instance). But the very fact that so many different readings have survived, and that most of the differences are so minor, gives us confidence that we can get a basic idea of what the original texts looked like, by comparing all the manuscripts that have come down to us. If all the texts were exactly the same, it would be more plausible to claim that maybe they had all been changed. But precisely because we have such a wide diversity of readings, it’s silly to suggest that perhaps “the Bible could have been fudged” and so we can’t know what the original manuscripts said. Clearly the copying of the Bible wasn’t something that was tightly controlled by one person or group, or we wouldn’t have all the different manuscript readings that we do. So when all the manuscripts do agree (as they do more than 90% of the time) we can be confident that they are accurate. If a big change had been made, it would have shown up just as all the relatively little ones have.

Now here’s the real kicker–there’s a textual criticism of the Qur’an as well. Muslims believe that the Qur’an was dictated word for word to Mohammed by Allah. But there are Christians and Jews who believe this about the Bible. Why does your friend believe the Muslims and not the Christians? Here’s the big difference–Muslims are a lot more conservative than Christians on these issues (many more Muslims have the attitude to their Scriptures that Christian “fundamentalists” do to theirs–this of course is different from what the media misleadingly calls “Islamic fundamentalism”!). So you will find far fewer Muslims who are honest about the critical problems with the text than you will Christians or Jews. But that doesn’t mean those problems aren’t there.

Certainly it’s true that the Qur’an was all written by (or revealed to) one person over a period of a few years rather than centuries like the Bible. If your friend prefers that, he’s welcome. To me the fact that the Bible grew over a long period of time, and that many people contributed to it, is evidence that it is divinely inspired. It’s a question of how we think God works, I guess. It seems to me that God usually works in long, roundabout, messy ways. But some people seem to find the Islamic notion of inspiration more convincing. You really can’t prove one or the other. You can only decide which one seems more like God.

The main thing I think you should emphasize is that your friend is uncritically believing everything Muslims tell him about the Qur’an. Yet he doesn’t uncritically believe everything Christians tell him about the Bible. Why this inconsistency? Has he read what secular scholars have to say about the Qur’an? Why would he believe the more skeptical view of the Bible but not even consider it with regards to the Qur’an? This makes no sense at all.

In Christ,

Edwin
 
thanks, you guys. you really have helped me make sense of this. I knew something was wrong when he would evade some of my questions. HE is a good friend, but is slightly misguided. He has no true religion… currently. i hope I can use the information you have given me in the right way to let him see the starngeness of his arguments. so… thanks! anyone else with anything elsea bout the Qu’ran I can use, it is greatly appreciated:blessyou:
 
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