Rainbow Sashers strike again at Cathedral in St. Paul MN

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+Flynn needs to be removed to oversee some museum at Vatican. St Paul Parish needs to be demolished.
 
beng said:
+Flynn needs to be removed to oversee some museum at Vatican. St Paul Parish needs to be demolished.

Careful there, this is a massive improvement over what has happened here in the past. I am a member at the Cathedral, and despise the scandal of the Sashers, but I also realize that my rector is caught between a rock and the chancery. 😦

(See the other thread that I had started about this. forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=19938)

Personally, as it happens I am proud of our associate pastor for taking a chance and speaking on his own initiative, requesting at the Our Father that the Sashers remove their sashes so as not to be in public protest. There were six Sashers present, and three of them did remove their sash as he requested.

It was a crappy situation, our Archbishop will not deny them Communion under any circumstances for the present time (subject to review as to whether or not they are “really protesting” Church teachings… sigh). 😦 Our rector and associate are trapped in a certain sense, they cannot disobey the direct order of their bishop, yet of course they are not happy with the situation and perhaps would desire to handle it differently (though of course they have to be careful what they say, so they have never really expressed it). Rock and a chancery…

I truly think things might be different at the next Pentecost “appearance” of the Sashers, because their leader was one of the ones who refused to remove his sash – something that screams loudly and clearly that “yes I am protesting the Church and will continue to be defiant no matter what”. I have high hopes that we could see something develop by Pentecost along the lines of Cardinal George’s policy - Holy Communion to be denied to those wearing the sash, if the sash is removed then no questions will be asked.

Now, however, is the time to write to the Archbishop! This has come hot on the heels of Vatican intervention at the St. Joan of Arc parish in his archdiocese (something that the Rainbow Sash individuals directly referenced in their press release), and immediately following a national election that was likely decided on the basis of moral issues, including gay “marriage”. The pressure is mounting…

We need to ask Archbishop Flynn now to celebrate the Mass on Pentecost, and we need to remind him of what this demonstration is really for – a politicalization of the Eucharist, which is exactly his reason for not denying them Communion. The problem is, he seems to think that if he ignores them they will go away – instead, they are going to keep gnawing away and growing more bold.

Pray for us and our Archbishop!!! More than anything else, pray for him!

+veritas+
 
i don’t get it, what do the rainbow sashes mean? what do they stand for? is the bishop pro-homosexual?
 
oat soda:
i don’t get it, what do the rainbow sashes mean? what do they stand for? is the bishop pro-homosexual?
If you want to hear what the rainbow sash means from the people in the movement. Go to this site:
rainbowsash.com/

Basically they are fighting for what they think is gay rights. Part of what they are fighting for is already part of church teaching (courteous and fair treatment of people with same sex attractions) The rest of it is just trying to legitimize sinful actions.

The reason they are not allowed to receive communion is because by wearing the sash they are “politicizing the communion rail”

Only the bishop can answer if he is pro-homosexual.
 
There were six Sashers present, and three of them did remove their sash as he requested.
SIX??? The article made it sound like a large group. Was this just at one Mass?
 
i checked out their website and found they reject the church’s teachings in matters of faith and morals
***SIMPLY: The Roman Catholic Church teaches a large number of the children
in YOUR community that homosexuality is ‘intrinsically disordered’. ***
if they reject the church’s authority in these matters and are making it public, why are they allowed to receive communion? they are contradicting themselves.
 
oat soda:
why are they allowed to receive communion?
They aren’t allowed to receive in DC if they are wearing the sash. Cardinal McCarrick has already said that if they come to the Mass on Monday for the Bishops meeting like they are planning they will be denied communion.

Cardinal McCarrick has been firm about not “politicizing the communion rail.” He feels that openly wearing something like the sash that has a political statement is different from say a pro-abortion politician that just presents themselves for communion.

Both shouldn’t be presenting themselves, but the rainbow sash movement is openly AT MASS politicizing their actions.
 
beng said:
+Flynn needs to be removed to oversee some museum at Vatican. St Paul Parish needs to be demolished.

You may disagree with the Archbishop BUT DO NOT call for the destruction of the cathedral…even in jest!
 
beng said:
+Flynn needs to be removed to oversee some museum at Vatican. St Paul Parish needs to be demolished.

Beng, what happend to you to make you so full of hate and vitriol? Why are you so angry and so ready to attack? Do you do this just to get a reaction or are you really crying for help?

Why don’t you just find the person you need to forgive or seek forgiveness from and follow that route instead of antagonizing everyone here? Obviously you’re carrying around a world of hurt and the only way you seem to think you can release it is by attacking others…directly or indirectly yet hiding behind “the Church” to justify feelings you’d rather not discuss.

So please, go find a good friend or Catholic therapist and address that wound only Christ can see!

My prayers and I’m sure those who have experienced your other posts go with you. God Bless you!

Oh…and btw…please spend some time praying for our archbishop and the parishoners therein rather than asking for their destruction. Thank you so much and bless your heart!
 
Brothers and Sisters,

Inspired by the Holy Spirit, I urge you to rejoice. Do not give in to your fears, hate, or confusion. Rather, be united and renewed in God’s word. Yes, it is obvious our faith is persecuted and our fidelity is challenged. The scriptures says ‘it is the same suffering required of all the brethren’. Be therefore steadfast and faithful in the providence of God.

Send your pleas up to God as the early Christians did when martyred during Saul’s persecutions. Pray that God would call persecutors into service of the Kingdom. Pray that the Saul’s of our day would be knocked off their ‘high horse’ and see the revelation of Jesus Christ. Ask for the intercession of St. Paul that the brethren will be ready to minister to the future laborers of the One True Catholic Faith.

Amen.

-Brian in Fairfield, CA
 
As much as these people “wear” their dissent to Mass, so do pro-abortion politicians for whom their stance is a part of their identity. When Cardinal McCarrick failed to treat the influential politicians the same way as these rainbow sash folks, he lost a lot of credibility…If he would deny them, he should have the courage to deny the Senators and big wigs too. Otherwise, he isn’t treating them consistently. Do Sen Kerry and Sen Kennedy need to wear sashes that say “I support the killing of babies”?
 
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