RCIA Expectations / Variances

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I’d like to open this new thread and focus the discussion exclusively on RCIA. Perhaps, like me, there are many who might be interested in

· Various Practices
· Experiences
· Program Structure
· Variances From Expectations
· Variances From Requirements
· Disappointments
· Joys
· Why You Left (RCIA)
· Doubts
· Affirmations
· Etc.

My wife has recently started participation in RCIA and has found the structure to be lacking. We don’t know if our expectations are too high or if the particular parish program needs improvement. Any and all discussion is invited and welcomed.
 
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PeterC:
I’d like to open this new thread and focus the discussion exclusively on RCIA. Perhaps, like me, there are many who might be interested in

· Various Practices
· Experiences
· Program Structure
· Variances From Expectations
· Variances From Requirements
· Disappointments
· Joys
· Why You Left (RCIA)
· Doubts
· Affirmations
· Etc.

My wife has recently started participation in RCIA and has found the structure to be lacking. We don’t know if our expectations are too high or if the particular parish program needs improvement. Any and all discussion is invited and welcomed.
Well I had been thinking about converting for about a year prior, and our bulletin began ‘advertising’ for the next class in about June, and the classes began in August. I had no idea what to expect. I was a bit nervous at first, and that subsided very quickly.

We meet weekly on Monday nights. The Deacon and his wife run the class, and there are about 8 additional members who are on the team that teach various topics. We were given a Bible and a copy of the catechism at the first meeting. We also have these worksheets that cover all the topics and explain them, and have you do some questions and answers. A basic meeting had us coming in and having a team member do a presentation, then we divided out into groups (usually about 8 people in a group or less) and went over the worksheets and discussion materials. the Deacon felt a smaller group would allow people to open up and discuss with more freedom, sometimes large groups are intimidating. Then we’d get back into the larger group for an straggling questions. Every week when we’d break into groups it would vary, so you really got to know the people in your class. By the end (now) we all know each other pretty well, and are at ease in our talks.

When we had our right of sending last week, as we walked out the congregation errupted into spontaneous applause for us, and you really did feel that you had the whole church behind you.

I’ve enjoyed this experience more than I had expected. I have learned so much, and I think my family has also become closer - almost rallying behind my conversion. Even the non Catholics from my side of the family are really happy for me. (yea, I’ll work on their conversions soon;) )

I can honestly say that this class has not given me any doubts, but strengthened my faith. I knew this was something I wanted when I started but I never thought I’d feel it so fully by the end. I think I am really going to miss it when it’s over. But I know that I’ll continue learning and building my faith after wards, it’s only the beginning really!
 
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PeterC:
I’d like to open this new thread and focus the discussion exclusively on RCIA. Perhaps, like me, there are many who might be interested in

· Various Practices
· Experiences
· Program Structure
· Variances From Expectations
· Variances From Requirements
· Disappointments
· Joys
· Why You Left (RCIA)
· Doubts
· Affirmations
· Etc.

My wife has recently started participation in RCIA and has found the structure to be lacking. We don’t know if our expectations are too high or if the particular parish program needs improvement. Any and all discussion is invited and welcomed.
Well I had been thinking about converting for about a year prior, and our bulletin began ‘advertising’ for the next class in about June, and the classes began in August. I had no idea what to expect. I was a bit nervous at first, and that subsided very quickly.

We meet weekly on Monday nights. The Deacon and his wife run the class, and there are about 8 additional members who are on the team that teach various topics. We were given a Bible and a copy of the catechism at the first meeting. We also have these worksheets that cover all the topics and explain them, and have you do some questions and answers. A basic meeting had us coming in and having a team member do a presentation, then we divided out into groups (usually about 8 people in a group or less) and went over the worksheets and discussion materials. the Deacon felt a smaller group would allow people to open up and discuss with more freedom, sometimes large groups are intimidating. Then we’d get back into the larger group for an straggling questions. Every week when we’d break into groups it would vary, so you really got to know the people in your class. By the end (now) we all know each other pretty well, and are at ease in our talks.

When we had our right of sending last week, as we walked out the congregation errupted into spontaneous applause for us, and you really did feel that you had the whole church behind you.

I’ve enjoyed this experience more than I had expected. I have learned so much, and I think my family has also become closer - almost rallying behind my conversion. Even the non Catholics from my side of the family are really happy for me. (yea, I’ll work on their conversions soon;) )

I can honestly say that this class has not given me any doubts, but strengthened my faith. I knew this was something I wanted when I started but I never thought I’d feel it so fully by the end. I think I am really going to miss it when it’s over. But I know that I’ll continue learning and building my faith after wards, it’s only the beginning really!
 
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What a great response! I could feel the excitement just reading your words. No doubt you are having a positive experience. You offered some great ideas that we might be able to offer to our parish. I wonder if you would be willing to share the worksheets you mentioned? I think our program may be running on a random course and the idea of the worksheets would help a lot.

Thanks for the response and willingness to share your experience!
 
The sheets are entitled “Journey of Faith” published by Liguori Publications.
 
You are so very fortunate to have your program run by a Deacon. Many are not even run by a person who is grounded in The Faith and often by renegades with a personal agenda. I know this from 1st hand experience. I really am very happy for you! 🙂
 
I didn’t think much of it at first. I knew the Deacon, and really like him, he’s so knowledgable and helpful. Until I read some of the bad experiences (or wrong information) people had on these forums I didn’t realize how fortunate I was.

One more thing to be thankful for!
 
In nomine Jesu I offer you all peace,

I am finishing RCIA and I will share with you the words I spoke regarding my experience there.

Although raised a Baptist, I have had very fruitful relationships with many Catholics in my life. My mother (Lillian) was raised Catholic and although she married my father (James) who was Baptist, she continued many Catholic practices in our home growing up. One of my childhood friends was a fully practicing Catholic and served as a moral example in my formative years.

As St. Francis once said “preach the gospel at all times and everywhere, and if necessary use words”. Although I have never been directly evangelized by a Catholic, those who I knew served to preach the gospel to me in many ways unspoken. Although often un-watered and planted shallowly and in poor soil those early seeds eventually took root and began to effect in my life a turning to God. It was not the sudden conversion experience we find with St. Paul on the road to Damascus but more a subtle blossoming within, a coming to a certain awareness of Christ Jesus in me and in my life. This launched me off into a 3 year study of the Christian Faith which eventually led me to the Catholic Church as the most complete expression of that faith from it’s origin to our current day.

RCIA was a surprise for me and not a good one at first. As someone who had spent the last three years in study of the orthodox (i.e. straight path) of our Lord’s Message and the Traditions which grew out of that fruitful deposit I was hungry for more depth. No longer satisfied on milk I came seeking the meat St. Paul mentioned in the Scriptures to fill me. It was not long in RCIA that I came to the realization that perhaps I was in the wrong program or even at the wrong Church.

You see I came here with an ego and a pride in my feeble accomplishments. Because I thought I knew the Scriptures, the histories and the Traditions, I felt there was little I could learn here; little of St. Paul’s “meat” I could sink my teeth in to. Out of respect for my Aunt and Uncle I had determined to stick it out and simply “get through the process” even though I felt at the time, it would do little for me and my understanding of Christ Jesus. This arrogance blinded me for several weeks before it was lifted to reveal that I was still yet a babe in the faith.

For I was lacking in the one thing you cannot learn in books, histories or Traditions the one thing you can only learn in community. That one thing was “love” (i.e charity). It is the great stumbling block of the wise of “this” world. You see as St. Paul teaches in Scripture:

If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. - 1 Corinthians 13:1-2 DRB

If we learn nothing together on this journey let us rest in these words from our beloved St. Paul:

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another. For he that loveth his neighbour hath fulfilled the law. - Romans 13:8 DRB

So let me leave you with the words of my Patron Saint Francis of Assisi:

Where there is charity and wisdom, there is neither fear nor ignorance. Where there is patience and humility, there is neither anger nor vexation. Where there is poverty and joy, there is neither greed nor avarice. Where there is peace and meditation, there is neither anxiety nor doubt.

Peace, Love and Blessings.
 
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