RE: Christ Is Lord's assertion Mary denied Jesus

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On a now closed thread, a new member Christ is Lord, made the following assertion:
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Mary seems to be exhalted in what I see of the Catholic Religion… I mean I see pictures of Mary or “Mother of Grace” etc more than I see Jesus himself. Which of cours everyone loves Mary, who wouldn’t. But when she herself had denied Jesus. Why is she so holy? I just feel that she has become an idol. I feel that Catholics may be a little mislead.
There were a number of requests for him to substatiate such a claim.

He PM’d me with this as his explanation:
*Originally Posted by christ is lord *
Mark 3:21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”
Shortly after this Mary appeared outside and Jesus said, “who are my mother and brothers?”
The thread is closed or I would have posted this there
I think this is a great thread starter.
 
As a Catholic we don’t put her on a pedestal, bow down to her to worship her or make her equal with Christ and most non-Catholics see it that way when they go to a Catholic church. You need to understand her position she held in Gods plan. Catholics focus on Christ at mass always, he’s our Savior. We hold devotions to Mary but still put Christ above all things you see. Why do we do it you ask. Well, she was the Mother of God and served God - to do his will, she submitted to God and was obedient to God her whole life in the way no one else did. She was the sinless vessel of our Lord and Savior. God, through his power kept her from the stain of original sin through santifying grace. A better explaination is found in “Catholicism vs. Fundamentalism” by Karl Keating. I recommend you spend the time to read the chapter of Marian Doctrine, actually the whole book. You will find the insight you are looking for. It is always a good idea to study the Catholic beliefs fully before making any un-informed decisions. I used to question the Catholic doctrine a lot before really studying it.
 
On a now closed thread, a new member Christ is Lord, made the following assertion:

There were a number of requests for him to substatiate such a claim.

He PM’d me with this as his explanation:

I think this is a great thread starter.
How can that quote from Mark 3:21 (or Mark 3:31) possibly be construed as Mary denying Jesus??
Some might try to argue its Jesus denying Mary (which he is not of course) but how could anybody interpret that as Mary denying her son?
 
How can that quote from Mark 3:21 (or Mark 3:31) possibly be construed as Mary denying Jesus??
Some might try to argue its Jesus denying Mary (which he is not of course) but how could anybody interpret that as Mary denying her son?
That’s my wonder as well. Hopefully someone who espouses this interpretation can explain.
 
Dont’ read into it too much. Think about it. Jesus and Mary knew who they were, they just didn’t say “Well, I dont’ know who you are woman” or “You are not my son”. It actually shows the love she has for him. Wouldn’t a mom who loves their son run to them if they thought something was happening or being said, it’s love, just love. You need to see the love they share with each other. Jesus is teaching about who brothers are and not in the genetical sense. That is why most Protestants don’t believe in the viginity of Mary. Jesus’ use of brothers, sisters, mothers means more that genetic DNA, he’s talking about the family of God.
 
Yes, I have seen this assertion in Protestant circles before. My first thought is, anybody making such an assertion today on such flimsy evidence would certainly be the loser in a libel suit.

Some translations say “family”, others say “friends”. Some say that the family/friends said “he is beside himself” while others say that it was the crowd who said this.

Now, if we allow for argument’s sake that it was family, and the family members said “he is beside himself”, we are still a million miles away from “Mary denied Jesus”. Did all of the family appear simultaneously and cry out in chorus “he is beside himself”? That’s not how groups of people normally act and talk. And why did they say “he is beside himself”? Because they thought he was mad? Or because they were trying to protect him from the great crowd “lest they should crush him” (Mk 3:9)?

And even if “his family” denied him, was Mary there, participating in the denial? Mary, who knew from the beginning that “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God”? Did she forget how Jesus was conceived? Did she forget the appearance of the angel Gabriel?

And finally, why, if Mary was in the first group, are the two groups described in such different terms? In Mk 3:21 they are called “family” or “friends” or “kinsmen” while 10 lines later in Mk 3:31 they are called “his mother and his brothers”. If these are the same groups of people, why are they described differently less than a dozen lines apart? Why is Mary’s presence explicitly noted in Mk 3:31 but not in Mk 3:21?

The whole Mk 3:21 argument is the flimsiest possible attempt to find fault with Mary and, the real goal, with the Catholic faith.
 
Great response, Mike! I would be interested to know Christ Is Lord’s defense.
 
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