Reading the BIBLE off of a smartphone?

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I agree with TimothyH, apps are convienient, but certainly not my sole factor for using books, espically something as Sacred as the Bible or The Breviary (which i am going to need to invest in for the community i am joining!!) I grew up as a bookworm, clutching Books, i also love the smell of books, espescially some of the new book smells. Plus, if the battery on my phone ever dies, i cant read Sacred Scripture then, but as long as i dont doze off, or my eyes go blind on me, i can read as much as i want off an actual Bible, for as long as i want, no recharging, no annyoying small screen (they can get annoying after a while) etc.
 
I agree with TimothyH, apps are convienient, but certainly not my sole factor for using books, espically something as Sacred as the Bible or The Breviary (which i am going to need to invest in for the community i am joining!!) I grew up as a bookworm, clutching Books, i also love the smell of books, espescially some of the new book smells. Plus, if the battery on my phone ever dies, i cant read Sacred Scripture then, but as long as i dont doze off, or my eyes go blind on me, i can read as much as i want off an actual Bible, for as long as i want, no recharging, no annyoying small screen (they can get annoying after a while) etc.
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There isn’t anything like the smell of an old book. I do all of my reading on my nook. Due to back and neck problems I can’t hold a book very long. I was really happy to have Laudate on my phone. I went to a Spanish Mass and I don’t speak Spanish. At least I could follow the readings in English on my phone.
 
Some of us still prefer books.

There is something sacred about a fine leather bound Bible which I don’t get from an iPhone.

-Tim-
Whoah Nelly! There’s nothing wrong at all with liking or even preferring printed Bibles, or print in general. And I agree there are plenty of pros for paper.

I was only pointing out that the ‘paper is actually kinder to the environment’ argument is not a slam dunk.

As a student who spent years having to carry around loads of heavy books to class every day, my back certainly appreciates not needing to heft all those weighty tomes around all the time.
 
I think the bottom line is-which method is going to get you reading? For many people, the novelty alone of the iPad and iPhone makes them want to use them more, the whole “play with the new toy” theory. If having the Bible on those devices makes people read the Bible more that’s a great thing. It might start out as just another way to use the new toy-but we all know that the Bible has tremendous power, and the next thing you know you’ve got someone hooked on it! 😃
 
Hey everyone!!

I have three catholic apps that have the Bible on my android ( i have more, but those three are the only ones with the bible). I have Catholic One app, it has the Douay-Rheims and New American Bible on it, another is the latin vulgate bible with english/Douy-Rheims transaltion, and my last one is The latin Bible ( i think vulgate), which also plays on audio, but you have to have wifi. My question is, dont you think it is a bit, “weird” to read the BIBLE off of a phone?? i would think so, and plus, dont you miss the “bookyness” so to speak, when you actually have a BIBLE??

Your Opinions??
The weird thing is that you have a Latin audio bible :o
Why would one even do that? Do you understand Latin?
 
The weird thing is that you have a Latin audio bible :o
Why would one even do that? Do you understand Latin?
There are people who do learn Latin to a reasonable degree of fluency y’know. And I’d imagine having an audio alongside a print copy would greatly help your pronunciation. 👍
 
Whoah Nelly! There’s nothing wrong at all with liking or even preferring printed Bibles, or print in general. And I agree there are plenty of pros for paper.

I was only pointing out that the ‘paper is actually kinder to the environment’ argument is not a slam dunk.

As a student who spent years having to carry around loads of heavy books to class every day, my back certainly appreciates not needing to heft all those weighty tomes around all the time.
Your the one who made the flippant comment that iPads are kinder on trees. Even with cute smileys, comments like that which point a finger of blame for destroying the environment at those who own and prefer books are not fair.

I planted seven trees on my property last year and paid $500 to have a dead Hickory removed. Please don’t lecture me about deforestation in Australia.

I know us old people know nothing about real life in the modern world and what young students go through nowadays, but please keep in mind that us old people carried books to school back in the 60’s and 70’s too, and that having them in electronic format wasn’t an option.

-Tim-
 
Your the one who made the flippant comment that iPads are kinder on trees. Even with cute smileys, comments like that which point a finger of blame for destroying the environment at those who own and prefer books arn’t fair.

I planted seven trees on my property last year and paid $500 to have a dead Hickory removed. Please don’t lecture me about deforestation in Australia.

I know us old people know nothing about real life in the modern world and what young students go through nowadays, but please keep in mind that us old people carried books to school back in the 60’s and 70’s too, and that having them in electronic format wasn’t an option.

-Tim-
You might want to go back and reread my comment. All I said was that they were ‘possibly - who knows?’ kinder to trees. And no smileys - or flippancy - involved in that comment. I don’t think a single soul really has the answer, in all honesty. I even SAID that I don’t personally actually prefer digital texts, and I don’t as a general thing. I merely that there are some advantages to them.

Thankyou in all sincerity for planting seven trees on your property last year. Would that everyone did - not nearly everyone does. Not nearly everyone cares as much as you do about conservation issues.

I’d also be interested to know (because I don’t pretend to) how much wood (ie how many trees) it takes to make the average book or newspaper. And how many books and newspapers are sold each day. And how much electricity is needed to power the sawmills, woodchipping plants, paper factories, printing presses etc etc that go into the process of producing them. And how many rivers are polluted by the chemicals used in those same processes.

And how much space is needed to store all the resulting product - resulting in bigger rooms in our houses, or more libraries, more land cleared to build them, more timber used in their building, more electricity needed to heat or air condition and light them. Which would be largely unnecessary if everything were digitally stored. And so on.

What I’m getting at is that neither of us, if we are honest, has the answer as to which is better. And only one of us seems to be pretending to, and it isn’t me.
 
😃 Please no arguing!! Come on now, it was just a question!! Please cheer up!! we have alot more pressing issues that whether or not Paper or Electronic is better!! ⭕( , it was a question, and i thank you all for responding!! if anyone else needs to add some (name removed by moderator)ut, feel free, but please, no sarcasm!!
 
You might want to go back and reread my comment. All I said was that they were ‘possibly - who knows?’ kinder to trees. And no smileys - or flippancy - involved in that comment. I don’t think a single soul really has the answer, in all honesty. I even SAID that I don’t personally actually prefer digital texts, and I don’t as a general thing. I merely that there are some advantages to them.

Thankyou in all sincerity for planting seven trees on your property last year. Would that everyone did - not nearly everyone does. Not nearly everyone cares as much as you do about conservation issues.

I’d also be interested to know (because I don’t pretend to) how much wood (ie how many trees) it takes to make the average book or newspaper. And how many books and newspapers are sold each day. And how much electricity is needed to power the sawmills, woodchipping plants, paper factories, printing presses etc etc that go into the process of producing them. And how many rivers are polluted by the chemicals used in those same processes.

And how much space is needed to store all the resulting product - resulting in bigger rooms in our houses, or more libraries, more land cleared to build them, more timber used in their building, more electricity needed to heat or air condition and light them. Which would be largely unnecessary if everything were digitally stored. And so on.

What I’m getting at is that neither of us, if we are honest, has the answer as to which is better. And only one of us seems to be pretending to, and it isn’t me.
There is no more justifiable use of God’s creation than to use it to glorify God. No tree can be used for a more glorious use than to be cut down and turned into a Bible, or a Roman Missal which sits on the altar and from which the priest reads the words of consecration, or a chair where a priest sits at Mass, or a crucifix. .

In the Genesis 1, God creates things in a specific order. The order in which he creates things tells us how he intended things to be ordered in creation.

Day 1: Light and dark
Day 2: The sky and the heavens
Day 3: Seas, dry land and vegitation.
Day 4: Sun, moon, stars and the seasons
Day 5: Fish and birds
Day 6: The beasts, and finally man.

That which serves is created before that which it serves. Man is last. All else serves man, and man serves God.

The second creation story tells us that man was created first. God then creates all the beasts, and brings them to man to see what he would call them. Names are important in the Bible, and God changes the names of people to change their identity and their purpose. He renames Abram to Abraham, and renames Simon to Peter. One who has dominion and power over another gets to name the other. The one who is named gets his identity and his purpose from the one who names him. In Genesis 2, man names the beasts. The fact that God names man shows that man gets his identity from God, and the fact that man names the beasts shows that they get their indentify and purpose from man.

This is truth revealed to us by God.

We can argue about whether men have been good stewards of God’s creation, and what being good stewards means. That is a valid discussion. Blessed Pope John Paul II taught often about man’s responsibility to be good stewards of God’s gift of creation. His teaching was difficult for many social conservative, pro-business Catholics to embrace. He is 100% right, and the discussion is important. Creation however, is a gift from God to man. Man has no idenity and purpose apart from God, and the rest of creation has no identity and no purpose apart from Man. If man, created in the image and likeness of God, were not present in creation, then it would have no purpose, and no value. Man has a responsiblity to minister to creation, to be good stewards of creation because it is a gift from God to man. But creation serves man, not the other way around.

Where I live, trees and paper mills give jobs to many people who would not otherwise be able to feed their family. That’s a perfect example of creation serving man. Man in return, protects creation - he shouldn’t pour his drained motor oil into the ground - thats suicide.

There is nothing more glorious on earth today than the Eucharist, and after that the vessels in which it is kept and the tabernacle in which it is reposed. Third is the Sacred Scriptures and Holy Books of the Church. The Holy Bible - God’s communication to man and to me personally - is the third most sacred, most holy, most special and most prized thing in all of creation.

If it took twenty square miles of wheat and two factories to produce one host to be consecrated into the Eucharist for one person to recieve, it would be worth it. That land would be holy, and sacred, and cherished, and protected.

If it took five power plants and ten forests to produce one Bible for one person to read the Gospel of John once, it would be worth it.

-Tim-
 
There are people who do learn Latin to a reasonable degree of fluency y’know. And I’d imagine having an audio alongside a print copy would greatly help your pronunciation. 👍
Yes, I know, I can read and translate Latin as well, but having the Vulgate on your smartphone seems so useless (says someone who has the Septuagint on his ebook).

I mean, it is a translation that you’ll have to translate :o
 
I know, but the Vulgate on my phone, (i have an audio one, and just a regular one) has the Douay Rheims transaltion underneath the Latin verses if you so desire to translate, the other version is audio and i think is dramatzed. I love Latin though, alothugh i dont know it well yet, i mean i know words, and i can recognize cognants, and i can pronounce the words very good, but as a Priest, i hope one day to actually learn fluent, conversational latin. I also want to learn another 8 or 9 languages because my opinion is, If you are a Priest, the more languages, the better your minsitry to others. You can reach more people that way!!
 
Hey everyone!!

I have three catholic apps that have the Bible on my android ( i have more, but those three are the only ones with the bible). I have Catholic One app, it has the Douay-Rheims and New American Bible on it, another is the latin vulgate bible with english/Douy-Rheims transaltion, and my last one is The latin Bible ( i think vulgate), which also plays on audio, but you have to have wifi. My question is, dont you think it is a bit, “weird” to read the BIBLE off of a phone?? i would think so, and plus, dont you miss the “bookyness” so to speak, when you actually have a BIBLE??

Your Opinions??
Well, back in the old days they didn’t even have ‘books’. They had scrolls. And even before that, they passed down many of those stories we now read today via word of mouth. So, yeah, I’m fine with using electronic media (although, at the same time I’m a huge bibliophile and am of the opinion that the written word is one of mankind’s greatest achievements, if not the), but being the person who’ll do an Internet search for a Bible passage, I’m obviously biased. 😛
 
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