Readings for Pentecost

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I went to Mass awhile ago for the Pentecost Vigil. Since the Philippines calls Saturday evening masses as Anticipated Masses, the readings and prayers for the Mass of the Day was used instead of the Vigil Mass (as Pentecost has a Vigil Mass). In Sundays that have Vigil Masses, should the Mass of the day be used in place of it?
 
With the exception of the Easter Vigil Mass (which is required), when Vigil Masses are given in the Roman Missal, they are optional. Christmas also has several Mass texts which must be used at the appropriate times, although the readings can be moved around.

On other days, they are optional. For example, today the eve of Pentecost, at an evening or night Mass, the Vigil text may be used, but it is not required to be used.
 
From the General Introduction to the Lectionary (at liturgyoffice.org.uk/Resources/Rites/Lectionary.pdf ):

“102. … In the evening Mass celebrated on the vigil of Pentecost four Old Testament texts are provided; anyone of them may be used, in order to bring out the many aspects of Pentecost. The reading from the apostles shows the actual working of the Holy Spirit in the Church. The gospel reading recalls the promise of the Spirit made by Christ before his own glorification.
For the Mass on Pentecost itself; in accord with received usage, the account in Acts of the great occurrence on Pentecost is taken as the first reading.The texts from Paul bring out the effect of the action of the Holy Spirit in the life of the Church.The gospel reading is a remembrance of Jesus bestowing his Spirit on the disciples on Easter evening; other optional texts describe the action of the Spirit on the disciples and on the Church.”
 
Checking in the Lectionary I cannot find anything to support the assertion by FrDavid96 in #2, at least as far as Pentecost is concerned. He wrote, “For example, today the eve of Pentecost, at an evening or night Mass, the Vigil text may be used, but it is not required to be used.”

But the Lectionary gives, using the second reading as an example:
Pentecost Vigil: Romans 8:22-27.
Pentecost Day: Corinthians 12:3-7.12-13 OR Galatians 5:16-25 OR Romans 8:8-17.
 
From the General Introduction to the Lectionary (at liturgyoffice.org.uk/Resources/Rites/Lectionary.pdf ):

“102. … In the evening Mass celebrated on the vigil of Pentecost four Old Testament texts are provided; anyone of them may be used, in order to bring out the many aspects of Pentecost. The reading from the apostles shows the actual working of the Holy Spirit in the Church. The gospel reading recalls the promise of the Spirit made by Christ before his own glorification.
For the Mass on Pentecost itself; in accord with received usage, the account in Acts of the great occurrence on Pentecost is taken as the first reading.The texts from Paul bring out the effect of the action of the Holy Spirit in the life of the Church.The gospel reading is a remembrance of Jesus bestowing his Spirit on the disciples on Easter evening; other optional texts describe the action of the Spirit on the disciples and on the Church.”
That text from the General Introduction to the Lectionary only says that some readings of the Vigil Mass can be chosen, not that this Mass’ readings can be swapped with those of the Mass of the Day; so neither the readings nor the formularies can be changed for those of the Mass of the Day (as FrDavid proposed).
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Checking in the Lectionary I cannot find anything to support the assertion by FrDavid96 in #2, at least as far as Pentecost is concerned. He wrote, “For example, today the eve of Pentecost, at an evening or night Mass, the Vigil text may be used, but it is not required to be used.”

But the Lectionary gives, using the second reading as an example:
Pentecost Vigil: Romans 8:22-27.
Pentecost Day: Corinthians 12:3-7.12-13 OR Galatians 5:16-25 OR Romans 8:8-17.
That text from the General Introduction to the Lectionary only says that some readings of the Vigil Mass can be chosen, not that this Mass’ readings can be swapped with those of the Mass of the Day; so neither the readings nor the formularies can be changed for those of the Mass of the Day (as FrDavid proposed).
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The Roman Missal states that the Vigil Mass “may” be used. Not must.
 
The Roman Missal states that the Vigil Mass “may” be used. Not must.
That is not true. I have access to the second typical edition of the Roman Missal (in Spanish, as I live in Spain) approved by the Spanish Episcopal Conference and the closest thing to that are the rubrics for the Evening Mass of the Vigil (briefer mode), which literally say: Esta Misa se utiliza en la tarde del sábado, antes o después de las primeras vísperas del Domingo de Pentecostés, that is: “This Mass is used on Saturday evening, before or after the First Vespers of the Sunday of Pentecost”, and this is for the briefer mode, as I said before. Nothing is written on this generally for the Evening Mass.
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That is not true. I have access to the second typical edition of the Roman Missal (in Spanish, as I live in Spain) approved by the Spanish Episcopal Conference and the closest thing to that are the rubrics for the Evening Mass of the Vigil (briefer mode), which literally say: Esta Misa se utiliza en la tarde del sábado, antes o después de las primeras vísperas del Domingo de Pentecostés, that is: “This Mass is used on Saturday evening, before or after the First Vespers of the Sunday of Pentecost”, and this is for the briefer mode, as I said before. Nothing is written on this generally for the Evening Mass.
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Do not presume to know what is written on a book that I have in my hand, and from which I am reading at this very moment.
 
Do not presume to know what is written on a book that I have in my hand, and from which I am reading at this very moment.
Well, in that case I will use the Classical principle: Gratis assertur, gratis negatur. I have provided you with proofs of my assertion; now I can say, without adding anything more, that you are also presuming to know what is written on a book which I also can look up in and you are wrong.

As you might have noted, I’m demanding some texts from that book you have to support what you are saying.
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The Roman Missal has two Pentecost Vigil Masses, the “Extended form” and “Simple form”.

For the Extended form, the rubric for the reading before the Gospel is: “11. Then the reader proclaims the reading from the Apostle (Rm 8:22-27), and Mass continues in the usual way.” This is the reading from the Lectionary for the Vigil. There is nothing to suggest that one of the Pentecost Day readings can be used instead.

Also the Pentecost Vigil Simple Form has nothing about using a reading for Pentecost Day.

Some rubrics that seem to have been incorrectly interpreted by FrDavid96:

At the Vigil Mass
Extended form
This Vigil Mass may be celebrated on the Saturday evening, either before of after First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of Pentecost Sunday.
In churches where the Vigil Mass is celebrated in an extended form, this may be done as follows.”

At the Vigil Mass
Simple form
This Mass is used on the Saturday evening, either before or after First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of Pentecost Sunday.
Entrance Antiphon”

So you may use the Vigil Mass Extended Form or you use the Vigil Mass Simple Form. There is nothing to suggest you may instead use the Day Mass at the vigil.

Another rubric in the Vigil Mass Extended Form is: “4. Then follow the readings proposed as options in the Lectionary.” The Lectionary has “Any one of the following readings from the Old Testament may be chosen.” It then has four readings, different to the Pentecost Day readings. But for this Extended form Vigil Mass all four of the Old Testament readings are read, with their own psalm (or a period of sacred silence) and a prayer. But again, there is nothing to suggest that the readings for Pentecost Day can be used instead at the Vigil.
 
The Roman Missal has two Pentecost Vigil Masses, the “Extended form” and “Simple form”.

For the Extended form, the rubric for the reading before the Gospel is: “11. Then the reader proclaims the reading from the Apostle (Rm 8:22-27), and Mass continues in the usual way.” This is the reading from the Lectionary for the Vigil. There is nothing to suggest that one of the Pentecost Day readings can be used instead.

Also the Pentecost Vigil Simple Form has nothing about using a reading for Pentecost Day.

Some rubrics that seem to have been incorrectly interpreted by FrDavid96:

At the Vigil Mass
Extended form
This Vigil Mass may be celebrated on the Saturday evening, either before of after First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of Pentecost Sunday.
In churches where the Vigil Mass is celebrated in an extended form, this may be done as follows.”

At the Vigil Mass
Simple form
This Mass is used on the Saturday evening, either before or after First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of Pentecost Sunday.
Entrance Antiphon”

So you may use the Vigil Mass Extended Form or you use the Vigil Mass Simple Form. There is nothing to suggest you may instead use the Day Mass at the vigil.

Another rubric in the Vigil Mass Extended Form is: “4. Then follow the readings proposed as options in the Lectionary.” The Lectionary has “Any one of the following readings from the Old Testament may be chosen.” It then has four readings, different to the Pentecost Day readings. But for this Extended form Vigil Mass all four of the Old Testament readings are read, with their own psalm (or a period of sacred silence) and a prayer. But again, there is nothing to suggest that the readings for Pentecost Day can be used instead at the Vigil.
John,
  1. You’re confusing the lectionary choices with the choice of the Mass itself.
  2. On Saturday evenings, the Mass of Sunday may be used (that is, the next calendar day, not just any Sunday, of course). That is what makes it possible to use the Mass of Pentecost on Saturday evening.
If you read this newsletter from the US Bishops Committee on Divine Worship
usccb.org/about/divine-worship/newsletter/upload/newsletter-2012-07.pdf

you will see that the Mass of Pentecost day may indeed be used on Saturday evening. See page 27.
 
FrDavid96,

From the USCCB article you refer to, entitled “The History and Use of Sequences in the Liturgy” has this sentence:

“(If the Pentecost “Mass during the Day” formulary is used at the Saturday evening anticipatory Mass instead of the Vigil Mass formulary, then the Sequence is used.)”

The author seems to share your opinion.

But I am not finding this reflected in the official liturgical books. For example, Roman Missal, 24 June The Nativity of Saint John the Baptist, it has:

At the Vigil Mass
This Mass is used on the evening of 23 June, either before or after First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of the Solemnity.
Entrance Antiphon …”

Similarly for Saints Peter and Paul, Apostles, of 29 June and Nativity of the Lord of 25 December.
 
FrDavid96,

From the USCCB article you refer to, entitled “The History and Use of Sequences in the Liturgy” has this sentence:

“(If the Pentecost “Mass during the Day” formulary is used at the Saturday evening anticipatory Mass instead of the Vigil Mass formulary, then the Sequence is used.)”

The author seems to share your opinion.

But I am not finding this reflected in the official liturgical books. For example, Roman Missal, 24 June The Nativity of Saint John the Baptist, it has:

At the Vigil Mass
This Mass is used on the evening of 23 June, either before or after First Vespers (Evening Prayer I) of the Solemnity.
Entrance Antiphon …”

Similarly for Saints Peter and Paul, Apostles, of 29 June and Nativity of the Lord of 25 December.
A general permission has been given to use the Mass of Sunday on Saturday evenings, and likewise for other Holy Days of Obligation. This is documented in many different places. That’s why the Pentecost Day Mass can be used on Saturday evening. What matters here is the fact that it is Saturday evening.
 
PS

Easter and Christmas have their own specific rules which do not apply to the topic of this thread.
 
This sort of permission is in the 1967 Instruction Eucharisticum mysterium at adoremus.org/eucharisticummysterium.html . It is explicit about using the Pentecost Vigil Mass on the Saturday night, the last sentence of the extract below.

"28. Anticipating the Sunday and Feast Day Masses on the Previous Evening

Where permission has been granted by the Apostolic See to fulfill the Sunday obligation on the preceding Saturday evening, pastors should explain the meaning of this permission carefully to the faithful and should ensure that the significance of Sunday is not thereby obscured. The purpose of this concession is in fact to enable the Christians of today to celebrate more easily the day of the resurrection of the Lord.

All concessions and contrary customs notwithstanding, when celebrated on Saturday this Mass may be celebrated only in the evening, at times determined by the local Ordinary.

In these cases the Mass celebrated is that assigned in the calendar to Sunday, the homily and the prayer of the faithful are not to be omitted.

What has been said above is equally valid for the Mass on holy days of obligation which for the same reason has been transferred to the preceding evening.

The Mass celebrated on the evening before Pentecost Sunday is the present Mass of the Vigil, with the Creed. …"
 
For pastoral reasons, derogating from that specific norm is possible.
  1. Attentive circumstances of a pastoral nature, the practice to follow at the diocesan level should be indicated by the local Ordinary at the beginning of the year in the proper liturgical Calendar, even, if the case warrants, by derogating from what was said above when, for pastoral reasons, the celebration of one or the other Mass seems preferable.
Notitiae 10 (1974), 222–223
 
The full text of that can be found at notitiae.ipsissima-verba.org , perhaps by doing a search at google.com. It is also in the book “Documents on the Liturgy 1963-1979”, page 1177.

It is dealing with a situation where another liturgical day overlaps. “Thus, for example, it can happen that the on the evening of the Fourth Sunday of Advent, when this falls on December 24, there would be at the same time the evening Mass of the Sunday and of the Vigil of the Nativity of the Lord.”

So there may need to be a decision about which Mass to use, Fourth Sunday of Advent or Vigil of the Nativitiy.

But it is not dealing with the situation we are discussing. Something to authorise using the Day Pentecost Mass at the Vigil, instead of the Vigil Pentecost Mass.
 
The full text of that can be found at notitiae.ipsissima-verba.org , perhaps by doing a search at google.com. It is also in the book “Documents on the Liturgy 1963-1979”, page 1177.

It is dealing with a situation where another liturgical day overlaps. “Thus, for example, it can happen that the on the evening of the Fourth Sunday of Advent, when this falls on December 24, there would be at the same time the evening Mass of the Sunday and of the Vigil of the Nativity of the Lord.”

So there may need to be a decision about which Mass to use, Fourth Sunday of Advent or Vigil of the Nativitiy.

But it is not dealing with the situation we are discussing. Something to authorise using the Day Pentecost Mass at the Vigil, instead of the Vigil Pentecost Mass.
John,

The #4 still refers back to paragraph #1 which does address the issue

The Instruction Eucharisticum mysterium, n. 28 established: “Where permission has been granted by the Apostolic See to fulfill the Sunday obligation on the evening of the preceding Saturday … the Mass should be celebrated as assigned in the calendar for that Sunday, including the homily and the prayer of the faithful.”

The same must be said of a Mass which, for the same reason, is permitted to be celebrated on the evening of the day before a holy day of obligation in a particular place …
  1. The general principle for the celebration of the Mass of a holy day of obligation anticipated on the evening of the preceding day is that which is found in n. 28 of the instruction Eucharisticum mysterium.
The point is that it is a pastoral response (not some kind of “pastoral means ignoring the rules” type of response, but a genuine pastoral one).

The pattern that has emerged in the last few decades is that the Mass formularies of Sunday are used on Saturday evening. This is based on norms that are taken as a given at this point (after decades of actual use).

The US Bishops Committee on Divine Worship comes to the same conclusion that it is at least possible to use the Mass of Pentecost Day on Saturday evening. Read the names of the committee members.

I do not know if they arrived at their conclusion by the same means that I am doing so. They don’t share the reason. Nevertheless, it’s clear from their newsletter that they do see the possibility of doing what the OP first asked.

This was published in 2012. It was not the old 1970s committee. While I will be the first to say that committee newsletters do not carry any force of law, they are a reliable source for answering the sort of question posed by the OP.
 
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