I know the Church is big on records, how does one record a private baptism with the church?The ordinary ministers of Baptism are the bishop and priest and, in the Latin Church, also the deacon. In case of necessity, anyone, even a non-baptized person, with the required intention, can baptize, by using the Trinitarian baptismal formula. The intention required is to will to do what the Church does when she baptizes. The Church finds the reason for this possibility in the universal saving will of God and the necessity of Baptism for salvation.
don’t know what you mean by a private baptism. as a rule they should not be allowed except in extreme circumstances–danger of death, mother and baby remaining in hospital after delivery etc. I presume you mean a case wear a deacon or chaplain baptizes a baby in a place other than the parish church, with all aspects of the rite provided. In that case, the minister is responsible for gathering the relevant information from the parents–there is a form for the purpose–and entering the fact of the baptism into the record of the parents’ parish. The parents would do well to make sure this has been done and request a certificate attesting to this.According the CCC #1256
I know the Church is big on records, how does one record a private baptism with the church?
An Emergency Baptism is valid at the moment it is celebrated. You need to speak with the pastor of the nearest parish to the hospital or place where the Emergency Baptism was celebrated to have it recorded in the parish records and arrange for the additional Rites of Baptism.According the CCC #1256
I know the Church is big on records, how does one record a private baptism with the church?
If you baptize someone in danger of death then you call the parish priest as soon as possible afterwards, complete paperwork to have the baptism recorded in the parish records, and then the priest will conduct the other rites such as anointing with chrism oil.According the CCC #1256
I know the Church is big on records, how does one record a private baptism with the church?
Do NOT take your children to a Protestant church to be baptized. Then you will add the complicated layer on top of your other issues regarding your children now needing to be brought into the Catholic Church.Hello puzzleannie, you responded to my other post regarding confirmation.
What I am trying to figure out is how to get my children baptized. My Parish Priest will not do it until I am confirmed. I do not want to have my children in limbo any longer and would like for them to enter the Catholic faith through baptism, the same as I was when I was a baby.
I may or may not complete my confirmation, due to technical requirements. So, in order to save my children I would like to either baptize them myself, or perhaps take them to a protestant Church which may not be so restrictive when it comes to baptizing children.
But in the end, I would want my children’s baptisms recorded so they it would be recognized by the Church.
I think you mean post-baptismal anointing – you wouldn’t anoint a baptized person with the Oil of Catechumens but you would do the anointing with Sacred Chrism. Why would you do the confession of faith??What is done in such cases is to supply the missing ceremonies: confession of faith, pre-baptismal anointings, and (in the case of the Eastern Churches) Chrismation.
Hello puzzleannie, you responded to my other post regarding confirmation.
What I am trying to figure out is how to get my children baptized. My Parish Priest will not do it until I am confirmed. I do not want to have my children in limbo any longer and would like for them to enter the Catholic faith through baptism, the same as I was when I was a baby.
I may or may not complete my confirmation, due to technical requirements. So, in order to save my children I would like to either baptize them myself, or perhaps take them to a protestant Church which may not be so restrictive when it comes to baptizing children.
But in the end, I would want my children’s baptisms recorded so they it would be recognized by the Church.
If they are seriouly injured or become seriously ill you should contact the nearest Catholic parish and ask for the priest to visit the hospital. DO NOT let the hospital staff do this do it yourself. Only these or similar situations would it be considered an emergency if the priest or deacon are not available.Is it an emergency because everyone should be baptized as soon as possible?
If there is a baptism waiting period, such as me completing RCIA (a 2 year course at my parish), then my children are in limbo, sins are not forgiven and eligible for Heaven because they are unbaptized.
I don’t know what possible tragedies await around any corner. Should I not consider my children’s baptisms top priority and an emergency?
Actually, there are differences in the order of things between east and west. His Grace was ordained in the Independent Orthodox Byzantine Tradition.I think you mean post-baptismal anointing – you wouldn’t anoint a baptized person with the Oil of Catechumens but you would do the anointing with Sacred Chrism. Why would you do the confession of faith??
Once the child has been baptized in an emergency you’d have the anointing with Chrism, the presentation of the white garment, the presentation of the light and the Ephpheta rite. I don’t know why the babies are not anointed even if it’s an emergency baptism (certainly my pastor won’t do it – even though it’s entirely proper to confirm them at the same time).
While I’m sure there are differences, it doesn’t explain why you’d do PRE-baptismal anointings AFTER the Baptism. Hardly seems logical.Actually, there are differences in the order of things between east and west. His Grace was ordained in the Independent Orthodox Byzantine Tradition.
That would be illogical since by that time they are no longer catechumens. It’s the anointing with the Sacred Chrism which is supplied. The anointing with the oil of Catechumens, like the Ephpheta rite, is often omitted even in regular baptism,While I’m sure there are differences, it doesn’t explain why you’d do PRE-baptismal anointings AFTER the Baptism. Hardly seems logical.
My understanding–which may well be wrong–is that in the Latin tradition, the anointing with the oil of catechumens was one of the “missing ceremonies” supplied.