Refusal to Baptize

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That’s how your post struck me and I felt like defending the OP. This wasn’t a trivial problem to the OP, he really wanted a baptism in the Catholic Church and just needed more education.
No, it it’s not trivial, you are right. It is very important because the reason why Catholics don’t re-baptize goes to the heart of the sacrament.

I am glad he is coming into the church, and wished to vigorously direct him to prevent him from becoming discouraged and being tempted to drop out, not attack.
 
No, it it’s not trivial, you are right. It is very important because the reason why Catholics don’t re-baptize goes to the heart of the sacrament.

I am glad he is coming into the church, and wished to vigorously direct him to prevent him from becoming discouraged and being tempted to drop out, not attack.
I want him to feel welcome to our Church as well.

I guess what is vigorous to one man can seem over-zealous to another, eh? 🙂
 
Wow, haha, I didn’t think this thread was still active!

I hope everyone is being nice to everyone! 🙂 I have no hard feelings, and am glad to understand the sacrament. In fact, I’m looking forward to many other sacraments in the future!

The sacrament of marriage sounds lovely! I just need to find someone to marry me! 😃
 
Wow, haha, I didn’t think this thread was still active!

I hope everyone is being nice to everyone! 🙂 I have no hard feelings, and am glad to understand the sacrament. In fact, I’m looking forward to many other sacraments in the future!

The sacrament of marriage sounds lovely! I just need to find someone to marry me! 😃
Glad to hear you sounding so happy.

Have you heard much yet about the Easter Vigil? When you’re done, I don’t think you’ll feel that you missed anything at all. It’s very hard to not feel moved and completely part of the Church, even if you’re just observing the sacraments and participating in the Eucharist.

You do get one thing that the Catechumens don’t get- your first reconciliation. Maybe that will make up for what you’d hoped for in baptism a little bit?
 
Glad to hear you sounding so happy.

Have you heard much yet about the Easter Vigil? When you’re done, I don’t think you’ll feel that you missed anything at all. It’s very hard to not feel moved and completely part of the Church, even if you’re just observing the sacraments and participating in the Eucharist.

You do get one thing that the Catechumens don’t get- your first reconciliation. Maybe that will make up for what you’d hoped for in baptism a little bit?
Now there’s a silver lining!
 
salt water doesn’t count. if you were baptized at a beach, for instance, you weren’t truly baptized.
This looks to be inaccurate, anything that one would identify as water is valid matter for baptism, including ocean water.

From here (scroll down to the section on matter):
The remote matter of baptism, then, is water, and this taken in its usual meaning. Theologians tell us consequently that what men would ordinarily declare water is valid baptismal material, whether it be water of the sea, or fountain, or well, or marsh; whether it be clear or turbid; fresh or salty; hot or cold; colored or uncolored. Water derived from melted ice, snow, or hail is also valid. If, however, ice, snow, or hail be not melted, they do not come under the designation water. Dew, sulfur or mineral water, and that which is derived from steam are also valid matter for this sacrament. As to a mixture of water and some other material, it is held as proper matter, provided the water certainly predominates and the mixture would still be called water. Invalid matter is every liquid that is not usually designated true water. Such are oil, saliva, wine, tears, milk, sweat, beer, soup, the juice of fruits, and any mixture containing water which men would no longer call water. When it is doubtful whether a liquid could really be called water, it is not permissible to use it for baptism except in case of absolute necessity when no certainly valid matter can be obtained.
 
Remember 3,000 people were baptised on the first Pentecost - don’t recall any of them complaining afterwards that they weren’t really baptised, even though they must’ve been seriously rushed jobs.

It’s a bit like being married. Even the most informal blue-jeans quick ceremony is, if the essentials are present, perfectly valid, and the grace of God is truly given to the married couple. Even if the parties don’t necessarily ‘feel’ it as much as with a white wedding.

And just like marriages, there aren’t any do-overs.

Are you being confirmed at Easter vigil? Since cradle Catholics are generally baptised at birth, and confirmation completes the sacraments of initiation, that is an equally valid time at which to date the beginning of your entry into the faith, since you don’t fully enter before that point.
 
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