Relationship "Bread of Presence" to "Manna in the Ark"?

[CenturionSlave]

The early Jewish Temple worship with its physical conventions, to include: Outer court, Inner court and contents housing the Bread of Presence & Holy of Holies housing the Ark of the Covenant; courts separated by veils. Questions: 1. Was there a difference between the “Bread of Presence” in the Inner court and the “Manna in the Ark”? 2. When the Jewish Priests would present the Bread saying “Behold the Love of God”, which form did he hold in his hand? 3. When Christ died on the cross and the veil was torn, was it the veil between the H of H and the Inner court? 4. At that moment wasn’t the Ark missing (since Babylonian invasion)? 5. At that moment did God join all three, Manna in the (missing) Ark, Bread of Presence, and himself via Jesus (body, blood, soul and divinity)?

 

[PJM]

GREAT POST Thanks!

1. The understanding at THAT TIME was today’s often Protestant view of God being REPRESENTED [a sign or symbol],… NOT GOD being RE-presented as is the reality of Catholic Holy Communion.
2. Mana, NOT GOD; but a symbol of God
3. YES
4. Yes: GOOGLE “the Bread of presence” or “holy bread”
   1Sam.21: [4] And the priest answered David, “I have no common bread at hand, but there is holy bread; if only the young men have kept themselves from women.”
   [6] So the priest gave him the holy bread; for there was no bread there but the bread of the Presence, which is removed from before the LORD, to be replaced by hot bread on the day it is taken away.
5. Not sure which “moment” you meansl But NO

As a FYI:
During the Consecration it is exactly at the WORDS THIS IS MY BODY" AND THIS IS MY BLOOD" that Christ is miraculously and mysteriously MADE PRESENT.

God Bless you,
Patrick

 

[jcrichton]

Hi!

Wow, this is so loaded!

1. Was there a difference between the “Bread of Presence” in the Inner court and the “Manna in the Ark”?

I think these were one and the same: as in the Catholic Church: the showbread (Monstrance: Blessed Sacrament); the manna in the Ark (Host in the Tabernacle).

1. When the Jewish Priests would present the Bread saying “Behold the Love of God”, which form did he hold in his hand?

It was cakes/bread made from the manna.

1. When Christ died on the cross and the veil was torn, was it the veil between the H of H and the Inner court?

Christ enters the Holy of Holies as the Eternal Sacrifice; the veil that is torn is that of the Holy of Holies which separated man from God.

1. At that moment wasn’t the Ark missing (since Babylonian invasion)?

At Christ’s Crucifixion? Yes.

1. At that moment did God join all three, Manna in the (missing) Ark, Bread of Presence, and himself via Jesus (body, blood, soul and divinity)?

There’s nothing in Scriptures that makes this exact pronouncement but we can infer it through what is Revealed:

9:11 But now Christ has come, as the high priest of all the blessings which were to come… 9:12 and he has entered the sanctuary once and for all, taking with him… his own blood, having won an eternal redemption for us…
9:14 how much more effectively the blood of Christ, who offered himself as the perfect sacrifice to God through the eternal Spirit, can purify our inner self from dead actions so that we do our service to the living God. 9:15 He brings a new covenant, as the mediator, only so that the people who were called to an eternal inheritance may actually receive what was promised: his death took place to cancel the sins that infringed the earlier covenant…
9:24 …but it was heaven itself, so that he could appear in the actual presence of God on our behalf…
10:12 He, on the other hand, has offered one single sacrifice for sins, and then taken his place forever, at the right hand of God…
10:14 By virtue of that one single offering, he has achieved the eternal perfection of all whom he is sanctifying…
10:19 In other words, brothers, through the blood of Jesus we have the right to enter the sanctuary, 10:20 by a new way which he has opened for us, a living opening through the curtain, that is to say, his body. 10:21 And we have the supreme high priest over all the house of God…
10:25 Do not stay away from the meetings of the community, as some do, but encourage each other to go; the more so as you see the Day drawing near.
10:29 and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. (Hebrews)

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[CenturionSlave]

Thank you Patrick and Angel for responses to my questions!
One last question: When the Jewish priests at Passover would take the Bread of the Presence out of the Holy Place, lift it and say, “Behold God’s love for you”; did only the priest eat it (not the people)?
Thanks again, C.S.

 

[jcrichton]

Hi!

Here’s Jesus on it:

3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; 4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? (St. Matthew 12)

We can see this effectively happening during the Consecration as the Priest consumes the Eucharist (showbread) and does not distribute it to the people.

Maran atha!

Angel