Reliability of the NT when it comes to the prophecies and claims about Jesus

[SonOfMan]

You might want to check out the Bible some time. There are at least 10 different authors in the New Testament, they were not a group, they were different authors writing at different times for different reasons.

You may believe anything you like and can make all of the assertions that you wish but to deny what thousands of scholars over the centuries have held as truth is not very rational.

All the authors were Christians, I think that qualifies as being apart of the same group or movement.

 

[SonOfMan]

Let me get this straight…if the woman at the well recorded what happened when she met Jesus, that would be believable, but because John wrote it instead, it’s not?

We know that the woman became a believer along with many of her friends:

John 4:39-42
39 Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers.

42 They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.”

…but you’re saying her testimony would not be biased.

However, because John ALSO believed Jesus and had seen MORE miracles performed, he was biased.

Really?

You didnt get it straight. If we had another source, independent of the Bible, that seems to describe the same event, that paints a clearer picture as to what actually happened. And if that picture is very clear and there are yet even more sources supporting it, we can be reasonably certain that it did happen.

But, all we have is one author saying so with nothing else to compare that to. Not to mention the books of the Bible that we have now are copies of copies of copies, and so on. Id be afraid of copying errors or another writer’s intention or a type of ancient “media spin.”

 

[Randy_Carson]

All the authors were Christians, I think that qualifies as being apart of the same group or movement.

Good point. All the survivors of the winter at Valley Forge were members of the same Continental Army, so we know we can’t trust them to tell us truthfully how tough conditions really were.

If they had only embedded some pool reporters…

 

[SonOfMan]

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Great! Let’s see the supporting evidence. :compcoff:

Im not sure you want to go there, as there are mountains of quality proof for Sathiya Say Baba, moreso than the type of evidence that we have for Jesus.

What types of evidence would you be satisfied with anyway? Im willing to bet you will be very critical and stringent with the type of evidence you require, yet you are satisfied with an appeal to “It says so” for your belief in Jesus. Why?

The types of evidence that are available for Sathiya Say Baba are thousands of eyewitness accounts, very good documentation, video recordings, personal experience testimonies from people still alive today, contemporary writings that support what Sathiya was doing, people who have converted and changed their lives, spiritually good fuzzy feelings from contact with Sathiya, and there is probably more, as that is just off the top of my head.

 

[Randy_Carson]

Im not sure you want to go there, as there are mountains of quality proof for Sathiya Say Baba, moreso than the type of evidence that we have for Jesus.

What types of evidence would you be satisfied with anyway? Im willing to bet you will be very critical and stringent with the type of evidence you require, yet you are satisfied with an appeal to “It says so” for your belief in Jesus. Why?

The types of evidence that are available for Sathiya Say Baba are thousands of eyewitness accounts, very good documentation, video recordings, personal experience testimonies from people still alive today, contemporary writings that support what Sathiya was doing, people who have converted and changed their lives, spiritually good fuzzy feelings from contact with Sathiya, and there is probably more, as that is just off the top of my head.

http://saibabadisciplerelationship.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/sb.jpg

On 28 March 2011, Sai Baba was admitted to the Sri Sathya Sai Super Speciality Hospital at Prashantigram at Puttaparthi, following respiration-related problems. After nearly a month of hospitalisation, during which his condition progressively deteriorated, Sai Baba died on Sunday, 24 April at 7:40 IST, aged 84.

Sai Baba had predicted that he would die at age 96 and would remain healthy until then.

Well, that’s one prophecy that didn’t work out so well.