Religion, Politics, and "Forcing Your Faith on Others"

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Got in a discussion with a co-worker today and it turned to the issue of religious folks “forcing their faith on others” in the voting booth. This issue gets a lot of attention in today’s political world, but being a voter that values morality and principles, I don’t see a problem voting on issues based on morality. After all, what is the difference in voting on an issue by morality lines as opposed to voting on an issue by straight Republican/Democrat lines?

Anyway, this got me thinking a little deeper as well. How do you defend the accusations of “forcing your faith on others”? My co-worker, a Protestant and of a self-described independent party affiliation, says the line should be drawn based on the good of society. Abortion is bad b/c murder is bad for society. However, even if you believe drinking alcohol is bad, as a lot of Protestants here in GA do, you should not force your beliefs on others by voting to ban alcohol sales on Sunday (a hot topic here in GA - currently Sunday sales are banned state wide), i.e. it is not important enough. I then came across this article by a Protestant group that also divided issues along “high” and “low” moral grounds, in which “high” moral issues should be protected by law, i.e. abortion, and “low” moral issues should not be forced by law but instead enforced by social acceptance.

str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5453

This is an interesting take, but I’m wondering what the Catholic position is. I understand that our conscience and the moral law is not defined by “the good of society”, as eloquently pointed out by CS Lewis in “Mere Christianity”, but it does beg the question: can a voting Catholic in good conscience divide voting issues based on “high” or “low” moral values as defined by the good of society, as this Protestant author concludes? As an example, we Catholics do not believe in abortion, and do all we can in the political arena to prevent it. However, we also do not believe in fornication, but we do not fight to have it outlawed by law. Why not? Where is the difference drawn? This also applies to the issue of homosexual marriage, to where Catholics fight to prevent it, but we do not fight to outlaw pornography or masturbation (granted, it would be hard to enforce!). Have we created a double standard by fighting for some issues and not others, or is it simply a matter of fighting the fights that are presented before us?

These are just some of the issues I’m tossing about right now, trying to come to a good understanding of where religion and politics should intertwine and how to defend the issue of “forcing your faith” and if in fact it is “forcing your faith” at all. As I said before, I personally have no problem with people “forcing their faith” in the voting booth because I believe it is all of our moral obligations to voice our opinions and form the society we feel is in morally proper. However, this answer usually doesn’t receive a good response with folks who are adamant about “separation of church and state”.

Any insight on the matter is greatly appreciated, and I hope I’ve described my quandary in sufficient terms. Thanks!
 
We fight against some things more than others because they are of higher priority. Abortion kills people, while pornography does not. Homosexual “marraige” is another attempt to destroy the nuclear family upon which our society, and indeed all societies around the world are based. Some sins cause public scandal while others do not. Catholics do not see all sins as equal in nature nor in consequences–that’s a Protestant notion.
 
Got in a discussion with a co-worker today and it turned to the issue of religious folks “forcing their faith on others” in the voting booth. This issue gets a lot of attention in today’s political world, but being a voter that values morality and principles, I don’t see a problem voting on issues based on morality. After all, what is the difference in voting on an issue by morality lines as opposed to voting on an issue by straight Republican/Democrat lines?

Anyway, this got me thinking a little deeper as well. How do you defend the accusations of “forcing your faith on others”? My co-worker, a Protestant and of a self-described independent party affiliation, says the line should be drawn based on the good of society. Abortion is bad b/c murder is bad for society. However, even if you believe drinking alcohol is bad, as a lot of Protestants here in GA do, you should not force your beliefs on others by voting to ban alcohol sales on Sunday (a hot topic here in GA - currently Sunday sales are banned state wide), i.e. it is not important enough. I then came across this article by a Protestant group that also divided issues along “high” and “low” moral grounds, in which “high” moral issues should be protected by law, i.e. abortion, and “low” moral issues should not be forced by law but instead enforced by social acceptance.

str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5453

This is an interesting take, but I’m wondering what the Catholic position is. I understand that our conscience and the moral law is not defined by “the good of society”, as eloquently pointed out by CS Lewis in “Mere Christianity”, but it does beg the question: can a voting Catholic in good conscience divide voting issues based on “high” or “low” moral values as defined by the good of society, as this Protestant author concludes? As an example, we Catholics do not believe in abortion, and do all we can in the political arena to prevent it. However, we also do not believe in fornication, but we do not fight to have it outlawed by law. Why not? Where is the difference drawn? This also applies to the issue of homosexual marriage, to where Catholics fight to prevent it, but we do not fight to outlaw pornography or masturbation (granted, it would be hard to enforce!). Have we created a double standard by fighting for some issues and not others, or is it simply a matter of fighting the fights that are presented before us?

These are just some of the issues I’m tossing about right now, trying to come to a good understanding of where religion and politics should intertwine and how to defend the issue of “forcing your faith” and if in fact it is “forcing your faith” at all. As I said before, I personally have no problem with people “forcing their faith” in the voting booth because I believe it is all of our moral obligations to voice our opinions and form the society we feel is in morally proper. However, this answer usually doesn’t receive a good response with folks who are adamant about “separation of church and state”.

Any insight on the matter is greatly appreciated, and I hope I’ve described my quandary in sufficient terms. Thanks!
It is simple really. Someone’s morality is going to win in the voting booth, I’d rather Christian morality win the day. People who say they do not want Christians to vote their religious moral views are hypocrites because THEY vote their own moral views.
 
In my opinion, the key is what effect certain moral issues have on society. Abortion, gay marriage and drug abuse, to name a few, have clear negative effects on society. So we can support candidates who will uphold morality on those issues without forcing our religion on anyone. Now, if you voted for a candidate who wanted to ban eating meat on Fridays during Lent, that would be forcing religion on the rest of the country.

And yeah, I think we can certainly divide issues into high and low. Fighting abortion is far more important than fighting pornography. It isn’t a double standard, abortion is simply a much more important issue.
 
August - good point. I also always viewed the “forcing your faith” issues as being more religiously specific, such as forcing folks to eat meat on Fridays, etc.

Let me pose another question, and what I think is a better example. Before I do though, let me state that I am 100% Catholic and believe in all of the Church dogmas and doctrines. I’m just throwing this out there for discussion in order to better equip myself for discussions with others who are not Catholic or even religious.

If we fight to ban gay marriage b/c it is an attempt to destroy the nuclear family, as Della pointed out, then shouldn’t we fight to ban civil divorce as well? It is just as bad for the nuclear family as gay marriage is. If your position is that we do not have to worry about civil divorce because it really doesn’t matter in the spiritual realm, i.e. there is no such thing as a spiritual divorce (either you were married or you were not - annullment), then couldn’t you say the same thing about gay marriage? Just because a justice of the peace says you are “married” also doesn’t make it a valid spiritual marriage either, so again I wonder if we start to look as if we’re creating a double standard in some cases.

As to the issue of high and low moral standards, how do we determine which is high and low? Are there any Church teachings that can guide us in this area or is the ultimate choice left up to each individual? Going back to the Sunday sales example from my previous post, some Protestants may feel that it is of high moral ground because alcohol may cause DUI’s and wrecks, and thus harm society.

I’m just trying to find a sound and consistent basis for which to weigh political issues other than “I think it’s wrong”. But then again, perhaps that’s good enough! 🙂

Your thoughts?
 
As I look at it is not forcing if you are trying to uphold Natural Law against the perversions of today’s secular society.

Secular Relativist are forcing their perversions on us via Positive Laws and Judicial Activism that is in conflict with Natural Law.
 
Voting morally is not forcing your faith on others. The laws of morality are universal, no matter what religion or line of thinking you belong to. Nobody can logically defend the theory that morality is based on each person’s individual conscience. Such a mentality leads to chaos, which is obvious in our present society.
 
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