Response to clothing

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I think God calls us to be modest and to use our judgement as to what’s appropriate. I’m a bit offended when men write what is and isn’t modest, and as far as the recommendation to make my own clothes - NO! I don’t sew, I’m not crafty and I don’t have the time, thank you.

I try to live by St. Francis of Assisi’s coda - We must be simple, humble, poor. And that’s what I think of as I pick outfits for church. Modest, simple, attractive, easy (I do have young children!). I always wear a skirt, usually mid calf or lower, and never sleeveless in church. And certainly no cleavage, but yes, more than 2 fingers below the throat! I dress up for church, and insist our children do as well, because I feel that it is much like going out for a nice dinner, or visiting a special place. Dressing up shows respect. It’s why, for example, we don’t wear jeans to a wedding. I find it more immodest to see men and women in shorts, bathing suits, flip flops, tank tops, and jeans in church then judging the length of one’s sleeves.

In my personal life I dress appropriately. I wear pants or capris often because I am more comfortable in them, and again, with small children, it is easier. I wear short sleeves, but rarely a tank because frankly they aren’t very attractive and I’m not comfortable in them outside of the gym. I think my dress would be fine by the Church’s standards, and by God’s.

Last time I checked, Catholic women were not being asked to dress in burqas, and men were not being asked to always wear longer sleeves and slacks.

Just why is this an issue? Are we so uncomfortable with making appropriate decisions that we need to rely on an Pope’s edict from 80 years ago?
 
one of the great mysteries with cleavage is how on earth it became so popular during the victorian era. They were trying to make sure women’s ankles remained hidden but there were just boobies everywhere.
Yeah, but it’s actually even older. It probably started some time during the renaissance (I do know of certain ekhm… pecularities of dress in the middle ages, though), while the biggest was in the baroque period, though I won’t vouch for the latter half of the 19th century. It beats what you see in today’s high schools, actually.

Anthropologically thinking, I guess one function could be to show the interlucutor was feminine, properly built, healthy, that kind of thing. Other than that, well…
:rotfl: I’ve always wondered about that! Yet, today many people here think that my sleeveless dress w/ a button-up neck-line (ie collared) is immodest! Weird the way things change! 😉
As long as it won’t be too scandalous, you can tell them to get a life. 😉
I think God calls us to be modest and to use our judgement as to what’s appropriate. I’m a bit offended when men write what is and isn’t modest
I can relate - I certainly wouldn’t like a woman to go on and review my wardrobe. On the other hand, men often get the flak for talking against the less than modest modern designs and I generally stick with doods on that one. If a guy gets blasted for criticising cleavage or glorified underwear or the fad of wearing clothes one or two sizes too small or something of the kind, I’m gonna eat the napalm with him.
 
“A dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breadth under the pit of the throat; which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows; and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knees. Furthermore, dresses of transparent materials are improper.”

–The Cardinal Vicar of Pope Pius XI

So what should I say when someone asks me what I think of their attire in todays times? Does the above quote still apply?
“Modesty protects the mystery of persons and their love. It encourages patience and moderation in loving relationships; it requires that the conditions for the definitive giving and commitment of man and woman to one another be fulfilled. Modesty is decency. It inspires one’s choice of clothing. It keeps silence or reserve where there is evident risk of unhealthy curiosity. It is discreet.” (CCC 2522)

Although the recommendation was written, like 80 years ago… I think that the basic teaching is still very relevant. :yup:

I’m shocked and scandalized by some of the attire I see at Sunday Mass. SHORT shorts, tight slacks (both men and women), tank tops and sheer sun dresses with necklines so low… that everywhere you look… you must avert your eyes. And many of the young guys… seem to love those t-shirts with satanic images. :nope:

And some of these folks are Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist! :eek:

I think we need to use our common sense, in choosing clothing. Use the old rule that “Mom and Dad” taught us, as kids. Is the clothing going to reveal ANY of your “private” areas? Is it going to cause “occasion of sin” or scandal to anyone else? Then don’t BUY it. And don’t WEAR it. Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit… and should be treated with reverence, by us and others.

Thank you for letting me add my :twocents: God bless.
 
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