Rev. Billy Graham, Mother's Day, and The Virgin Mary

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Out of all the evangilicals, Billy Graham is the only one I respect. Even his children are doing so much good for people. I have never herd him talk bad about our Blessed Mother on the contrary I have herd him say very good talks on her.

God bless

jesus g
 
Personally I know nothing much about Billy Graham, but Ive just read an old article by a pastor typical anti-Catholic bias who do not appreciate him because he has been really pally with Catholic clergy, Bishops and the Vatican.

No problem with me 😃

MJ
 
Why would any one have to teach Jesus that…:confused:
But scripture has Mary telling others “do as He says” She didn’t put up with Jesus’s “protest” she didn’t say another word to Christ instead she instructed others to do what He tells you to do.
Exactly. Billy Graham was suggesting to this reader that one of the ways she could be a good mother is by teaching her children to have faith in Christ. That was his point. There was no need to bring Mary into this question to get his point across. Obviously, he might have mentioned Mary in some other way, but I think we are simply being unnecessarily critical when we upbraid him for not doing so. Billy Graham has been friendly with Catholics in his ministry.
 
This kind of reminds me of the Prostestant parishoner at an Air Force Base Chapel who complained to the Protestant chaplain that the Catholics had failed to close the icons of the stations of the cross after the Catholic mass and he had been forced to endure them during the Protestant service. Which event in the crucifixion of Jesus, the Protestant chaplain enquired, did the parishoner actually object to. I thought the Rev. Graham’s advice to the woman who wanted to be a good mother was wise and filled with grace. Which piece of advice from Rev. Graham is actually being objected to?
 
Exactly. Billy Graham was suggesting to this reader that one of the ways she could be a good mother is by teaching her children to have faith in Christ. That was his point. There was no need to bring Mary into this question to get his point across. Obviously, he might have mentioned Mary in some other way, but I think we are simply being **unnecessarily critical when we upbraid him for **not doing so. Billy Graham has been friendly with Catholics in his ministry.
How exactly is saying I respect him but I think he missed the mark on this one being overly critical??? Are we not allowed to have a personal opinion on the subject and must agree with everything he does? I don’t think Billy Graham himself would say that.🤷
 
Out of all the evangilicals, Billy Graham is the only one I respect. Even his children are doing so much good for people. I have never herd him talk bad about our Blessed Mother on the contrary I have herd him say very good talks on her.

God bless

jesus g
You don’t respect Dr. James Dobson?

How about Chuck Colson?

Or Charles Swindoll?

Or John R.W. Stott?

Or John Ortberg?

You really don’t respect these Christians? 😦
 
You don’t respect Dr. James Dobson?

How about Chuck Colson?

Or Charles Swindoll?

Or John R.W. Stott?

Or John Ortberg?

You really don’t respect these Christians? 😦
If I knew who they were, and how they practice thier faith I would or would not. So I can’t comment on something I have no knowledge of.

God bless

jesus g
 
So true, I stand corrected.

jesus g
I’m glad you recognize that and I appreciate your willingness to admit that you were in error. Thank you.

I’m not trying to belabor this and continue to beat up on you.

What I’m trying to do is somehow get across to all who are reading this thread how terribly offensive it is to evangelicals and other non-Catholic Christians when Catholics make sweeping, ignorant, judgmental statements.

I can tell you with certainty that if a Catholic makes such a statement to an evangelical Protestant, that the “door” would very likely CLOSE for many years, and their heart would harden against the Catholic Church.

The evangelical will remember that statement and in his/her mind, consider it a reason to doubt the Catholic Church. And that means that the Protestant will NOT seriously investigate the Catholic Church, and that means they will NOT become Catholic, at least not for many years. And that’s tragic.

As Catholics we need to do all that we can to keep the doors OPEN, so that evangelical Protestants will trust us and consider us friends and Christian brothers and sisters. That way, the Holy Spirit will have soft hearts to work in, and be able to softly speak to Protestants about the Catholic Church and urge them to “come home.”

We don’t ever want to be the cause for a Protestant turning their back on the Catholic Church.

Of course we need to stand up for our Church and teach “right” Catholic doctrine. I’m not suggesting that we compromise our teachings or disparage our Church in our attempts to reach out to evangelical Protestants.

What I’m saying is that we should avoid making sweeping, judgmental, ignorant statements that alienate people and turn them away from the Church.

The evangelicals that I listed above SHOULD be known to any Catholics who have any contact whatsoever with evangelical Protestants. The people on my list are great teachers and preachers who have had a major influence not only on evangelical Christians, but on the world as a whole.

Dr. James Dobson is sometimes called “the evangelical Pope.” There is a saying that “if Dr. Dobson says it’s OK, it’s OK.”

Dr. Dobson is one of the first, if not THE first, evangelical Protestant leader to recognize the evils of abortion and take a bold, public stand against it, and more importantly, to urge OTHER Christians to work against abortion and to be pro-life in our daily lives. He has repeatedly faced persecution and ridicule from the secular media, and dragged through mud by liberals who label him “fanatical” or “extremist” or even “dangerous.”

He is the founder of an organization called Focus on the Family, which since the 1970s has been an advocacy organization for decent Christian families, including Catholic families.

Dr. Dobson has never been anti-Catholic. In his latest book, Bringing Up Girls, Dr. Dobson endorses (in writing) Sen. Rick Santorum for President of the United States.

Finally, Dr. Dobson has NEVER been “caught” in any kind of scandal. Yes, of course he sins–he admits that in his books and his radio talks. But he hasn’t been caught in a scandal or convicted of any kind of crime, as have so many other public Christians both Catholic and Protestant. His life has been an exemplary life that has glorified Christ.

As for the others on my list–Chuck Colson is the founder, along with Father Richard Neuhaus (RIP) of Catholics and Evangelicals Together. THIS alone should be reason for Catholics to not only know WHO Chuck Colson is, but to follow his life and if they have time, read his books, columns, and blog. ** He is a MAJOR player in the possibility of unification of the Catholic and Protestant churches.** His book, Being the Body, was one of the main reasons why I converted from evangelical Protestantism to Catholicism. ** I strongly recommend this book–if you have time to only read ONE book this year, read Being the Body by Chuck Colson.**

Charles Swindoll is a beloved pastor who has written many practical best-selling books for Christians. I would describe him as one of the most down-to-earth and reasonable pastors and writers in the evangelical world. Absolutely no scandal associated with him–so refreshing.

John R.W. Stott is in his 90s now, and is a rector in the Anglican Church in Great Britain. His intellectualism has heavily influenced evangelical Protestantism and taken evangelicalism out of the “snake-handing backwoods” into the intellectual arenas of our day, mainly universities and media. He is the author of Basic Christianity, an apologetic work that is a wonderful companion to *Mere Christianity *(C.S. Lewis) In spite of his age, Stott has a huge following among young intellectuals. He was my hero and role-model when I was growing up.

John Ortberg is a pastor and a current best-selling author in the evangelical world. He is incredibly popular and on the path to become the next Billy Graham. I’m not surprised. I grew up with John–he and I attended church and school together, and back then, we all said that he would be the next Billy Graham! He’s a great man and a great Christian.

I would recommend that Catholics come out of their cloister (unless they are under vows!) and get to know real evangelicals. So many Catholics are incorrectly labelling some of the fundamentalist “TV preachers” as evangelicals–this is a mistake. Get to know the real thing.
 
I would recommend that Catholics come out of their cloister (unless they are under vows!) and get to know real evangelicals. So many Catholics are incorrectly labelling some of the fundamentalist “TV preachers” as evangelicals–this is a mistake. Get to know the real thing.
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And this is exactly 100% true to what I was doing. Thank you for opening my mind and heart.

God bless

jesus g
 
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