Reverting to Catholicism

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I am a 32 year old man who was a devout Catholic for many years and was baptized a Catholic as an infant. About 5 years ago, I began to be inner conflicted over a lot of the abuses in liturgy seen in the Catholic Church. At the same time, I grew to admire the Christian East vis-a-vis reading such Catholic literature as Orientum Lumen (forgive the spelling) by Pope John Paul II and his speech that the Church had to breathe with two lungs, East and West. Unfortunately, this led me to investigate not only Eastern Catholicism (not bad in the eyes of the universal church), but Eastern Orthodoxy and soon I converted to Eastern Orthodoxy and was brought into schism with the Church. I loved Eastern Orthodoxy, especially at first, because there was little change, i.e, no talk of women priests, no clown masses, et al. I had experienced such liberalism in college campus ministry and it distrubed me enough to the point that I sought too much tradition. I have learned a great deal about God and Christianity through Eastern Orthodoxy; but now I feel incomplete and know that completeness is found in the universal Catholic Church which is a beacon of light world over, not a restricted church that few know esoterically. I wish to be received back into the Catholic Church and will meet with a Catholic priest about this. I wish I could be more detailed, and perhaps I will be in replies to this message. I posted my thoughts on an Orthodox (Eastern) forum and got a lot of hatred towards Rome that some even said that Rome had no true sacraments. Let me know what you all think of my situation, I feel less confused as the days go by and have attended Mass on a regular basis now, but do not commune. Thanks.
 
I suggest avoiding other forums, or any environment, in which others are hostile toward you.

And primarily, since you were once a Catholic, all that is needed to come back is a penitent confession, followed up by attendance at a mass and reception of the Most Holy Body and Blood of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Welcome back. May God bless you. 😃
 
You are in the ideal city (San Antonio) to attend not only an Eastern Catholic liturgy, but also Our Lady of Atonement Anglican-Use parish. You may also prefer the EF (Extraordinary Form) - the Latin Mass of the 1962 Missal. There is probably an FSSP parish in San Antonio that celebrates the Latin Mass. You have many liturgical options – all of them 100% Catholic, loyal to the Magisterium and the Holy Father.

Welcome home! Don’t deprive yourself of the Eucharist. Confession is all that’s required to restore you to Communion.

I was disheartened to find this same animosity you describe among the Orthodox when I was looking into both Orthodoxy and Catholicism prior to becoming a Catholic.

Here’s an interesting article from a Catholic (convert) theologian entitled Why I Didn’t Convert to Eastern Orthodoxy:

catholic.com/thisrock/2008/0810fea3.asp

Here’s Our Lady of the Atonement’s website:

atonementonline.com/

You can read the Anglican-Use liturgy here and see how beautiful it is.

God be with you, Jim Dandy
 
God with you Dandy:
Thanks for the great information. I have been to Our Lady of Atonement and I loved it. I may want to make Atonement my parish, I am also leaning on a very reverent Novus Ordo parish in NW San Antonio, a parish that hosted a Mass for the Feast Day of St Josemaria Escriva a few years ago. Also in town, on the other side of town, is a Latin Mass sanctioned by the archdioncese at St Pius X parish (not SSPX btw 🙂 ) Also, there is an Eastern Catholic Maronite Lebanese parish at St George Maronite parish. I just feel at home in the Catholic Church. Even as an Orthodox, I felt appalled by the continual abuse of liturgy seen in some Catholic circles because I KNEW, yes I KNEW, the Catholics had a valid Eucharist and seeing Christ’s home be presented so irreverently was no place for Christ to be in Eucharist. Many Orthodox dont believe the Catholics have a valid Eucharist and believe unleavened bread used in Catholic Church is heretical! I believed that to be folly. They say the bread should be leavened because Christ is risen. They say We Catholics are legalistic, yet they have all these rules such as the ones concerning the Eucharist and extreme fasting during Lent & Advent. I am listening to James Likoudis’ on youtube on the Coming Home program from EWTN. Even the filioque disbute seems legalistic and technical! In closing, when I pray the rosary especially during adoration I just feel this power and peace I cannot explain. Thanks for your feedback.
 
About 5 years ago, I began to be inner conflicted over a lot of the abuses in liturgy seen in the Catholic Church. . . .because there was little change, i.e, no talk of women priests, no clown masses, et al.
I hear so much about the Great Clown Mass of 1973. Too bad I missed it while it appears everyone else has seen it. But it seems to have resulted in all so many people abandoning Christ and His Church that it is a good thing I didn’t see that terrible clown.

While the martyrs endured starvation and thirst and scourgings and swords and fire, and yet never denied Christ or abandoned Him, they were lucky they never met the Clown at Sunday Mass! 🤷

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I hear so much about the Great Clown Mass of 1973. Too bad I missed it while it appears everyone else has seen it. But it seems to have resulted in all so many people abandoning Christ and His Church that it is a good thing I didn’t see that terrible clown.

While the martyrs endured starvation and thirst and scourgings and swords and fire, and yet never denied Christ or abandoned Him, they were lucky they never met the Clown at Sunday Mass! 🤷

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I’m not convinced that ever took place. I searched other threads and some people said it was not a Catholic Church. Can anyone name the Church that this allegedly took place in?
 
God with you Dandy:
Thanks for the great information. I have been to Our Lady of Atonement and I loved it. I may want to make Atonement my parish, I am also leaning on a very reverent Novus Ordo parish in NW San Antonio, a parish that hosted a Mass for the Feast Day of St Josemaria Escriva a few years ago. Also in town, on the other side of town, is a Latin Mass sanctioned by the archdioncese at St Pius X parish (not SSPX btw 🙂 ) Also, there is an Eastern Catholic Maronite Lebanese parish at St George Maronite parish. I just feel at home in the Catholic Church. Even as an Orthodox, I felt appalled by the continual abuse of liturgy seen in some Catholic circles because I KNEW, yes I KNEW, the Catholics had a valid Eucharist and seeing Christ’s home be presented so irreverently was no place for Christ to be in Eucharist. Many Orthodox dont believe the Catholics have a valid Eucharist and believe unleavened bread used in Catholic Church is heretical! I believed that to be folly. They say the bread should be leavened because Christ is risen. They say We Catholics are legalistic, yet they have all these rules such as the ones concerning the Eucharist and extreme fasting during Lent & Advent. I am listening to James Likoudis’ on youtube on the Coming Home program from EWTN. Even the filioque disbute seems legalistic and technical! In closing, when I pray the rosary especially during adoration I just feel this power and peace I cannot explain. Thanks for your feedback.
I love the Byzantine and Maronite liturgies. I’ve heard Likoudis speak. I have his book, Ending the Byzantine Greek Schism. I have another of his books, but I can’t find it right now and can’t remember the title. I know it’s on the subject of the schism, which is his speciality.

I’ve attempted to dialog with several Orthodox on this forum and elsewhere. I do not find even recent converts to be peaceful. They apparently are taught anti-Catholicism with Orthodox doctrine.

I have friends who were ready to join a Greek Orthodox Church in San Diego. When they learned of the Orthodox flip-flop on contraception and their permitting three marriages and two divorces, they decided this could not be the True Church. They left the Orthodox and became Catholic.

I’m sure you’ll find a permanent home at a Catholic parish in San Antonio soon. It’s so good to have you back among us.

BTW, historically, it always has taken about a hundred years following an ecumenical council for the Church to assimilate all the fruits. We’re about 46 years out from the upheavel of Vatican II, so there’s hope.

Peace be with you, Jim Dandy
 
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