Rise of the humanist, one-world religion

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It’s all coming together. Already many people believe that “humanity” is the ultimate standard by which things must be measured. We’re seeing a general lack of mentioning of sin as offending Jesus Christ; instead we’re seeing how everything is about “offending man”. I propose that Pope Gregory XVI’s Mirari Vos be reading for those who want to educate themselves in the Faith. Here is an excerpt which portends to our times:
  1. To use the words of the fathers of Trent, it is certain that the Church “was instructed by Jesus Christ and His Apostles and that all truth was daily taught it by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.”[12] Therefore, it is obviously absurd and injurious to propose a certain “restoration and regeneration” for her as though necessary for her safety and growth, as if she could be considered subject to defect or obscuration or other misfortune. Indeed these authors of novelties consider that a “foundation may be laid of a new human institution,” and what Cyprian detested may come to pass, that what was a divine thing “may become a human church.”[13] Let those who devise such plans be aware that, according to the testimony of St. Leo, “the right to grant dispensation from the canons is given” only to the Roman Pontiff. He alone, and no private person, can decide anything “about the rules of the Church Fathers.” As St. Gelasius writes: “It is the papal responsibility to keep the canonical decrees in their place and to evaluate the precepts of previous popes so that when the times demand relaxation in order to rejuvenate the churches, they may be adjusted after diligent consideration.”[14]
 
Why is this in Traditional Catholicism?

Also, you presume a lot by assuming that you’re the only one who’s read anything pre-Vatican II and that the rest of us need to “educate ourselves”. :rolleyes:
 
S_O_F: I feel like Rumplestiltskin who has finally awoken to atheistic humanism and its ubiquity in the U.S. anyway. There are so many places that God is being or has long ago been pushed out of public life.

The struggle for sexual freedom in the 1940’s to the 1970’s, supposed women’s rights, etc. especially the commonality of abortion, have fallen into a pattern for me that I never saw in its full scope.

In these forums, someone points to the changes in the Mass liturgy as alienating many Catholics, which have resulted in an apparent or real loss of holiness. Materialism, the secularization of Sunday by broadcast sports and many public school sport programs, and the progress of atheistic gender confusion, are many of the manifestations. Lack of respect for police and the lawlessness in prison come to mind as other symptoms of an overindulgence in belief in personal liberty with a corresponding loss of sense of obligation and duty.
 
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It’s all coming together. Already many people believe that “humanity” is the ultimate standard by which things must be measured. We’re seeing a general lack of mentioning of sin as offending Jesus Christ; instead we’re seeing how everything is about “offending man”. I propose that Pope Gregory XVI’s Mirari Vos be reading for those who want to educate themselves in the Faith. Here is an excerpt which portends to our times:
  1. To use the words of the fathers of Trent, it is certain that the Church “was instructed by Jesus Christ and His Apostles and that all truth was daily taught it by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.”[12] Therefore, it is obviously absurd and injurious to propose a certain “restoration and regeneration” for her as though necessary for her safety and growth, as if she could be considered subject to defect or obscuration or other misfortune. Indeed these authors of novelties consider that a “foundation may be laid of a new human institution,” and what Cyprian detested may come to pass, that what was a divine thing “may become a human church.”[13] Let those who devise such plans be aware that, according to the testimony of St. Leo, “the right to grant dispensation from the canons is given” only to the Roman Pontiff. He alone, and no private person, can decide anything “about the rules of the Church Fathers.” As St. Gelasius writes: “It is the papal responsibility to keep the canonical decrees in their place and to evaluate the precepts of previous popes so that when the times demand relaxation in order to rejuvenate the churches, they may be adjusted after diligent consideration.”[14]This certainly is not a balanced, world-wide view of the status of the Church and of various societies; rather, it is a view which only considers Europe and North America as the only significant societies. I am not sure who your “we” refers to, but it also ignores the significant Christian morality as expressed within the Evangelical communities in the US.
And as to “it is obviously absurd and injurious to propose a certain “restoration and regeneration” for her as though necessary for her safety and growth, as if she could be considered subject to defect or obscuration or other misfortune”, it would appear that over 2,000 bishops and two Popes, as well as two subsequent Popes would seriously disagree, if the sentiment is to be taken as a commentary on Vatican 2. Otherwise, the two paragraphs seem to have little, if anything in common.
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Sword_of_Fire said:
It’s all coming together. Already many people believe that “humanity” is the ultimate standard by which things must be measured. We’re seeing a general lack of mentioning of sin as offending Jesus Christ; instead we’re seeing how everything is about “offending man”. I propose that Pope Gregory XVI’s Mirari Vos be reading for those who want to educate themselves in the Faith. Here is an excerpt which portends to our times:
  1. To use the words of the fathers of Trent, it is certain that the Church “was instructed by Jesus Christ and His Apostles and that all truth was daily taught it by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.”[12] Therefore, it is obviously absurd and injurious to propose a certain “restoration and regeneration” for her as though necessary for her safety and growth, as if she could be considered subject to defect or obscuration or other misfortune. Indeed these authors of novelties consider that a “foundation may be laid of a new human institution,” and what Cyprian detested may come to pass, that what was a divine thing “may become a human church.”[13] Let those who devise such plans be aware that, according to the testimony of St. Leo, “the right to grant dispensation from the canons is given” only to the Roman Pontiff. He alone, and no private person, can decide anything “about the rules of the Church Fathers.” As St. Gelasius writes: “It is the papal responsibility to keep the canonical decrees in their place and to evaluate the precepts of previous popes so that when the times demand relaxation in order to rejuvenate the churches, they may be adjusted after diligent consideration.”[14]
I see, but what is your point exactly? Do you think readers here are unaware that humanism as a religion has broadly come to supplant Christianity as the guiding spirit of Western civilization? Do you think that the Catholic Church can easily retake the high ground of schools and colleges in order to combat this menace?

I don’t know; what do you think, Sword of Fire?
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I am so confused what? I just know that I am a Christian I mean I know more than that I’m just confused what you’re getting at
 
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