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Hello all – I am in RCIA and just this morning celebrated the Rite of Acceptance with my congregation. I am now officially a catechumenate! I’m quite excited to be on my way to becoming a real Catholic!

I have a question however-- some of the people in RCIA with me took the eucharist this morning. I thought you had to complete the course before you could take communion? I’m not sure if these people were baptised or not-- I wasn’t-- would that make a difference?

I’m not sure if they take communion every week or not because we go to different masses-- I go Sunday at 11 and they go Saturday evening.

Thanks very much to anybody who can clear this up for me. I will probably also ask the Deacon (who’s teaching us the RCIA classes) what the proper thing to do is, but I wanted to ask here first.

Thanks to all, take care and God bless!
Sarah
 
Hello all – I am in RCIA and just this morning celebrated the Rite of Acceptance with my congregation. I am now officially a catechumenate! I’m quite excited to be on my way to becoming a real Catholic!

I have a question however-- some of the people in RCIA with me took the eucharist this morning. I thought you had to complete the course before you could take communion? I’m not sure if these people were baptised or not-- I wasn’t-- would that make a difference?

I’m not sure if they take communion every week or not because we go to different masses-- I go Sunday at 11 and they go Saturday evening.

Thanks very much to anybody who can clear this up for me. I will probably also ask the Deacon (who’s teaching us the RCIA classes) what the proper thing to do is, but I wanted to ask here first.

Thanks to all, take care and God bless!
Sarah
Congrats.

As to the people who took communion. There are many people who are baptized and receive their first communion in a Catholic church as a child, then fall away from the faith (usually due to their parents) before they receive confirmation. Some of these people come back to the Catholic faith later in life, and go through RCIA just like everyone else to become re-acquainted. Since they already received first communion when they were children, they are entitled to receive communion still. Those people are just waiting for confirmation, and RCIA serves as their confirmation preparatory classes.

With that said, I have no idea whether or not those who received communion in RCIA have already received first communion or not. If they have not, they should not be receiving it at mass. It would be good of you to mention this to your RCIA director, who would probably make an announcement or something at a meeting that only those who have received first communion already should receive at mass.
 
Hello all – I am in RCIA and just this morning celebrated the Rite of Acceptance with my congregation. I am now officially a catechumenate! I’m quite excited to be on my way to becoming a real Catholic!

I have a question however-- some of the people in RCIA with me took the eucharist this morning. I thought you had to complete the course before you could take communion? I’m not sure if these people were baptised or not-- I wasn’t-- would that make a difference?

I’m not sure if they take communion every week or not because we go to different masses-- I go Sunday at 11 and they go Saturday evening.

Thanks very much to anybody who can clear this up for me. I will probably also ask the Deacon (who’s teaching us the RCIA classes) what the proper thing to do is, but I wanted to ask here first.

Thanks to all, take care and God bless!
Sarah
It is possible they are adults who were not confirmed when younger. I had been baptised and taken First Communion but wasn’t confirmed at the proper age so at 16 I went into RCIA to prepare for Confirmation. So if they are in the same situation, they would be allowed to receive Communion even though they are in RCIA.

You do not say what your RCIA has already specified to you about whether you should receive Communion. If it has not been explicitly mentioned then it could just be that people do not realise they should not be receiving. I know in my class the priest expressed from the beginning that we should attend Mass but the non-Catholics should not receive Communion.
 
Hello all – I am in RCIA and just this morning celebrated the Rite of Acceptance with my congregation. I am now officially a catechumenate! I’m quite excited to be on my way to becoming a real Catholic!
Congratulations! :extrahappy:
I have a question however-- some of the people in RCIA with me took the eucharist this morning. I thought you had to complete the course before you could take communion? I’m not sure if these people were baptised or not-- I wasn’t-- would that make a difference?
As Trad said above, we can’t know what journey they are on. My best advice for you at this point is that you should keep your focus on your own journey, and ensure that you are doing everything that you know you should be doing.

Let the leaders worry about the rest of the people in your class - that’s their job. I am sure that they would have also noticed if anyone was receiving who should not have been, and no doubt they will take them aside for a private word, if needed. 🙂
 
Congrats.

As to the people who took communion. There are many people who are baptized and receive their first communion in a Catholic church as a child, then fall away from the faith (usually due to their parents) before they receive confirmation. Some of these people come back to the Catholic faith later in life, and go through RCIA just like everyone else to become re-acquainted. Since they already received first communion when they were children, they are entitled to receive communion still. Those people are just waiting for confirmation, and RCIA serves as their confirmation preparatory classes.
Well stated. My wife went through that exact process, and a few other people who were in our RCIA class were in the same boat.
 
Congrats.

As to the people who took communion. There are many people who are baptized and receive their first communion in a Catholic church as a child, then fall away from the faith (usually due to their parents) before they receive confirmation. Some of these people come back to the Catholic faith later in life, and go through RCIA just like everyone else to become re-acquainted. Since they already received first communion when they were children, they are entitled to receive communion still. Those people are just waiting for confirmation, and RCIA serves as their confirmation preparatory classes.

With that said, I have no idea whether or not those who received communion in RCIA have already received first communion or not. If they have not, they should not be receiving it at mass. It would be good of you to mention this to your RCIA director, who would probably make an announcement or something at a meeting that only those who have received first communion already should receive at mass.
Excellent answer. The other point was about you. Since you are not yet baptised and haven’t received First Holy Communion, you must wait to receive communion until then. You will receive those sacraments and confirmation at the East Vigil. So exciting! And baptism will wash away all your sins! 😃
 
Some people are implying that adults can receive Communion now because they received First Holy Communion as children. That is not how it works. There is no such rite as “First Holy Communion”. First Communion is simply a convention that people in some countries observer as a solemn occasion of the first time a child receives Holy Communion.

If someone were baptized Catholic but never received First Holy Communion, as an adult they would still be able to go to Confession and then receive Holy Communion for the first time. A baptized Christian who is not Catholic would have to respect the discipline of the Catholic Church as well as the discipline of his own church. For instance, a member of an Orthodox Church or the Polish National Catholic Church (PNCC) might be attending RCIA. They would be eligible to receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church prior to their official reception into the Church at Easter (or other suitable day), but many Orthodox priests will not allow their faithful to receive Holy Communion outside the Orthodox Church.

Unbaptized people and baptized Protestants and Evangelical Christians should not be receiving the Eucharist, as it “implies a oneness of belief which does not yet exist.”

The document I am quoting from is called “Guidelines for the Reception of Holy Communion” by what is now called the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB)
 
Congrats.

As to the people who took communion. There are many people who are baptized and receive their first communion in a Catholic church as a child, then fall away from the faith (usually due to their parents) before they receive confirmation. Some of these people come back to the Catholic faith later in life, and go through RCIA just like everyone else to become re-acquainted. Since they already received first communion when they were children, they are entitled to receive communion still. Those people are just waiting for confirmation, and RCIA serves as their confirmation preparatory classes.

With that said, I have no idea whether or not those who received communion in RCIA have already received first communion or not. If they have not, they should not be receiving it at mass. It would be good of you to mention this to your RCIA director, who would probably make an announcement or something at a meeting that only those who have received first communion already should receive at mass.
Thank you! This makes sense. I don’t want to pry into why they’re accepting communion-- I was just wondering. I’m sure the deacon/Father would let them know if they were receiving incorrectly.

Thanks to everybody for the responses and congratulations! I’m really looking forward to baptism and to receiving the Eucharist!!!

Love to you all.
Sarah
 
Some people are implying that adults can receive Communion now because they received First Holy Communion as children. That is not how it works. There is no such rite as “First Holy Communion”. First Communion is simply a convention that people in some countries observer as a solemn occasion of the first time a child receives Holy Communion.

If someone were baptized Catholic but never received First Holy Communion, as an adult they would still be able to go to Confession and then receive Holy Communion for the first time. A baptized Christian who is not Catholic would have to respect the discipline of the Catholic Church as well as the discipline of his own church. For instance, a member of an Orthodox Church or the Polish National Catholic Church (PNCC) might be attending RCIA. They would be eligible to receive Holy Communion in the Catholic Church prior to their official reception into the Church at Easter (or other suitable day), but many Orthodox priests will not allow their faithful to receive Holy Communion outside the Orthodox Church.

Unbaptized people and baptized Protestants and Evangelical Christians should not be receiving the Eucharist, as it “implies a oneness of belief which does not yet exist.”

The document I am quoting from is called “Guidelines for the Reception of Holy Communion” by what is now called the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB)
While you are (extremely, very, focusedly) technically correct, I have never heard of a priest who allows a baptized Catholic who never received first communion as a child to do so as an adult before the RCIA thing is done.
 
While you are (extremely, very, focusedly) technically correct, I have never heard of a priest who allows a baptized Catholic who never received first communion as a child to do so as an adult before the RCIA thing is done.
Keeping in mind Canon 912, what legal grounds does a priest have to prevent a baptized Catholic from receiving the Eucharist in these cases?

…And would the same priest deny the Eucharist to a pro-abortion politician?
 
Keeping in mind Canon 912, what legal grounds does a priest have to prevent a baptized Catholic from receiving the Eucharist in these cases?

…And would the same priest deny the Eucharist to a pro-abortion politician?
I suppose none. Then the problem needs to be fixed :).

No, he probably wouldn’t.
 
Some people are implying that adults can receive Communion now because they received First Holy Communion as children. That is not how it works. There is no such rite as “First Holy Communion”. First Communion is simply a convention that people in some countries observer as a solemn occasion of the first time a child receives Holy Communion.

If someone were baptized Catholic but never received First Holy Communion, as an adult they would still be able to go to Confession and then receive Holy Communion for the first time. …
It is true that there is no liturgical book on “First Holy Communion” as there is one for Confirmation. But there are still instructions on First Communion, for example, in the 2004 Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum:

“[87.] The First Communion of children must always be preceded by sacramental confession and absolution.[169] Moreover First Communion should always be administered by a Priest and never outside the celebration of Mass. Apart from exceptional cases, it is not particularly appropriate for First Communion to be administered on Holy Thursday of the Lord’s Supper. Another day should be chosen instead, such as a Sunday between the Second and the Sixth Sunday of Easter, or the Solemnity of the Body and Blood of Christ, or the Sundays of Ordinary Time, since Sunday is rightly regarded as the day of the Eucharist.[170] “Children who have not attained the age of reason, or those whom” the Parish Priest “has determined to be insufficiently prepared” should not come forward to receive the Holy Eucharist.[171] Where it happens, however, that a child who is exceptionally mature for his age is judged to be ready for receiving the Sacrament, the child must not be denied First Communion provided he has received sufficient instruction.” (From vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html ).

So I disagree that “First Communion is simply a convention that people in some countries observer as a solemn occasion …”. The above instructions apply in all countries.

According to the liturgical book “Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults”:
“376. The following pastoral guidelines concern adults who were baptised as infants but did not receive further catechetical formation nor, consequently, the sacraments of confirmation and eucharist. …”

“377 As in the case of catechumens, the preparation of these adults requires a considerable time (see no. 76), during which the faith infused in baptism must grow in them and take deep root through the pastoral formation they receive. A programme of training, catechesis suited to their needs, contact with the community of the faithful, and participation in certain liturgical rites are needed in order to strengthen them in the Christian life.”

“378 For the most part the plan of catechesis corresponds to the one laid down for catechumens (see no. 75,1). …”

“380 A sponsor presents these adults to the community (see no. 10). During the period of their catechetical formation, they all choose godparents (a godfather, a godmother, or both) approved by the priest. …”.

“381 The period of preparation is made holy by means of liturgical celebrations. …”

(From Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults Study Edition, E.J. Dwyer, Sydney, 1987, ISBN 0855741643, page 223. The RCIA introductions for England and Wales, are at liturgyoffice.org.uk/Resources/Rites/RiteRitual.html . The USA edition has different paragraph numbers.)

Regarding the question in the first post, about people in the class receiving communion. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding about who these people are. Maybe they are sponsors or godparents involved in the class, rather than catechumens.
 
So I disagree that “First Communion is simply a convention that people in some countries observer as a solemn occasion …”. The above instructions apply in all countries.
If you are not familiar with Solemn Communion, which is observed in Europe, particularly France, I suggest you look it up.

I did not see any verbiage in your quotes provided that prohibits baptized Catholics from participating in the Eucharist. The portion you quoted regarding First Holy Communion applies only to children, and reflects what is written in Canon Law.

Certainly, baptized Catholics should concurrently avail themselves of catechesis to learn the theology of the Eucharist and how to be properly disposed to receive it (Penance), but this does not preclude them from immediately participating in the sacraments of Penance and the Eucharist.

You should remember that Eastern Catholics and Orthodox communicate infants, beginning after baptism, even before they can digest solid food they are given the Eucharist under the species of wine. This demonstrates that there is nothing in the theology of the Eucharist that precludes the uncatechized or the unprepared from receiving Our Lord. Church discipline may, but so far we have not seen how, according to law.
 
This discussion was very interesting to me since I will participate in the Rite of Acceptance and Welcome next Sunday. I truly love all the rituals and Traditions celebrated in the Catholic faith, but I still need help understanding some of them. Thank you for Catholic answers, it is very helpful!:signofcross:
 
This discussion was very interesting to me since I will participate in the Rite of Acceptance and Welcome next Sunday. I truly love all the rituals and Traditions celebrated in the Catholic faith, but I still need help understanding some of them. Thank you for Catholic answers, it is very helpful!:signofcross:
Congratulations! Welcome, fellow catechumenate!!!
Love.
 
If you are not familiar with Solemn Communion, which is observed in Europe, particularly France, I suggest you look it up.

I did not see any verbiage in your quotes provided that prohibits baptized Catholics from participating in the Eucharist. The portion you quoted regarding First Holy Communion applies only to children, and reflects what is written in Canon Law.

Certainly, baptized Catholics should concurrently avail themselves of catechesis to learn the theology of the Eucharist and how to be properly disposed to receive it (Penance), but this does not preclude them from immediately participating in the sacraments of Penance and the Eucharist.

You should remember that Eastern Catholics and Orthodox communicate infants, beginning after baptism, even before they can digest solid food they are given the Eucharist under the species of wine. This demonstrates that there is nothing in the theology of the Eucharist that precludes the uncatechized or the unprepared from receiving Our Lord. Church discipline may, but so far we have not seen how, according to law.
In real life, take the advice of your parish priest, and do not be surprised if he advises you to receive instructions before partaking of any of the Sacraments, except for the Sacrament of the Sick. 😉
 
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