RSVCE...Ignatius Bible...?

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Hello All:

I have a guestion…or two.

I know thet the Ignatius Bible is the RSV Catholic edition. What would distinguish it from other copies of the RSVCE? I have the Oxford compact edition and find that the zipper gets in my way (no big deal, as this will be my travel Bible) and would like to step up to a larger Bible (easier to read, plus I just like the “feel” of the larger volumes).

I notice that Scepter Publishers have a leather bound RSVCE and Leaflet Missal Co. now has the Ignatius Bible in leather. They are both about the same size and run around the same price. Is there anything about either editions that in your opinion would set them apart? Is there anything that I should know about in choosing which Bible to purchase?

I sure appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

Joe
 
All I can tell you is that I do NOT like the Ignatius bible. I bought one as a travel bible because my home bible is fairly big. I also decided to buy the Ignatius because both Scott Hahn and Fr. Groeschel recommended it.

But after having used it for a time, I have noticed that it is basically a hybrid half-Protestant / half-Catholic work. Personally, I am getting sick and tired of the Catholic Church “giving in” to the Protestants where the bible is concerned. Protestant bibles have both obvious and covert flaws and misinterpretations incorporated in them to add weight to their agendas. The Ignatius may have removed the obvious flaws, but the covert ones remain.

My home bible is the “Holy Family edition of the Catholic Bible” printed in 1950 by the Chicago press. (I believe it is a revision of the Challoner-Rheims.) It states that Catholics are forbidden to read Protestant bibles because of their inherent flaws. It even points out the error of changing names such as Apocalypse to Revelations. Yet now, the church is validating Catholic bibles that have Protestant names to the books and a Protestant taint to the rendering of its passages.

But it seems that after Vat II, the Catholic church has been dropping its guard by allowing one Protestant impurity after another into the bible. I really wish the church would take a stand on scripture and stay there! I keep my Ignatius as a “study guide” not as a bible. If I find a non-biblical study guide that can replace it, I will toss the Ignatius into the trash.

Thal59
 
:rotfl: 👍 I prize my RSV Catholic Ignatius Bible! Bought the soft cover and put a deer hide cover on it. Feels so good in my hands. I think if someone had such strong feelings that they should wish to burn it they might better investigate what their brain is comprehending from the written word. I would say that they were wwwrrrrong! (you know how people hate to hear that word applied to themselves?:yup:
 
For what it’s worth, I found out from Ignatius a while back that they plan to come out with a newly type-set version of the
RSV-CE in about 4 months 👍.
 
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netmender:
For what it’s worth, I found out from Ignatius a while back that they plan to come out with a newly type-set version of the
RSV-CE in about 4 months 👍.
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It is also suppose to have maps and some editting to the text and notes. Lets hope it is published by the end of the year. 🙂
 
mccorm45:
Maps sound nice. Any information on what the editing to the text and notes is going to be like?
 
I use the RSVCE for both study and personal devotion and find it both accurate and inspiring. It has some flaws, of course, but all translations do, including the DRB. That’s why it’s a good idea to have more than one translation or a parrallel Bible. If you aren’t fluent in New Testament Greek and have the ability more or less to translate it from the original language yourself, I would never restrict myself to one translation

By the way, I have both the Sceptor and the Ignatius versions of the RSVCE and, as far as content goes, see little difference. They differ in externals like price and appearance. The print on my bonded leather Sceptor is a little easier to read, but the gilt edging started coming off almost as soon as I bought it. Even so, it is my favorite, just because of the “feel.” The Ignatius doesn’t have thumb tabs to find each book (which are handy in apologetics work), but storebought tabs can be attached. At the lower price, I don’t feel bad if it gets beat up a bit, since I’m not above doing a little Bible-thumping myself. 🙂
 
I recently purchased the Ignatius RSV/CE Bible. I’m very disappointed with the workmanship of it. The margins are scant, the lines are poorly spaced. I have an Oxford RSV/CE compact Bible which is excellent. Too bad I can’t seem to find a quality full sized version.

The Oxford annotated ecumenical RSV is pretty good. Still have to be wary of protestant bias however. Any word on whether a modern translation of Latin Vulgate or redo of Douay Rheims is in the near future?
 
I’m wondering, is the text the same in all RSV-CE editions of the Bible? I have a large, family-style RSV-CE (the large type is easier on my eyes), and I’m wondering if the translation is the same as that of the Ignatius Bible.
 
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CarolAnnSFO:
I’m wondering, is the text the same in all RSV-CE editions of the Bible? I have a large, family-style RSV-CE (the large type is easier on my eyes), and I’m wondering if the translation is the same as that of the Ignatius Bible.
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Carol\Ann:

I might be wrong, but the TRANSLATION of the RSV-CE should not vary in any but the most insignificant manner, so the translation (the words) should be the same.

I assume that by Ignatius Bible you’re referring to the editions being put out by Ignatius Press. If so, the publishing house is small enough that any concerns should be able to be adressed by people simply writing letters and e-mailing them.

And, unlike a lot of publishing houses, I think we can trust the people at Ignatius Press to take care of these concerns.

Blessings and Peace, Michael
 
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eknath:
I recently purchased the Ignatius RSV/CE Bible. I’m very disappointed with the workmanship of it. The margins are scant, the lines are poorly spaced. I have an Oxford RSV/CE compact Bible which is excellent. Too bad I can’t seem to find a quality full sized version.

The Oxford annotated ecumenical RSV is pretty good. Still have to be wary of protestant bias however. Any word on whether a modern translation of Latin Vulgate or redo of Douay Rheims is in the near future?
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eknath:

Did you buy your Bible through Ignatius Press? If so, have you contacted them with your concerns about the workmanship? Have your written a POLITE LETTER explaining your concerns?

Ignatius Press is not some giant publishing house that can afford to dismiss the concerns of its customers. and, From what I know of the people who run it, they’d be well aware of that fact and would want to see what they could do to make you happy.

If you bought it through somebody else, I don’t know what to tell you, except sorry that you’re disappointed in your purchase.

Blessings and peace, Michael
 
I favor the RSV-CE over the NAB. However although the RSV-CE has Catholic interpretations in the NT, such as “Hail, full of Grace” instead, “Hail, highly favored one” and “brethren of the Jesus” instead of “brothers of Jesus” the Old Testament has some Protestant and even Jewish bias. Malichi 1:11 says “incense” instead of “sacrifice” like it does in the Douhy-Rhemis and New American Bibles; big surprise, the NAB couldn’t get St. Gabriel’s salutation right, but they got this verse right. Malichi 1:11 supports the concept that the Mass is a sacrfice. In Isaiah, the RSV-CE addition reads that “A young woman shall concieve and bear a son, and his name will be Emmanuel.” Whereas the Douay-Rheims and NAB both read “Virgin” I am no Douay-Rheims onlyist, but I still favor it the best English translation. The RSV-CE ranks second.
 
Michael,
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  Thank you for your  comments regarding my Ignatius Bible.  No, I didn't purchase it directly from Ignatius publishing.  I purchased it from Amazon.  Truthfully I knew what I was getting.  I was more interested in the Catholic RSV translation than I was the worksmanship.   I suspect all the Ignatius Bibles are flawed in their layout by shoddy design.  This becomes glaringly apparent to someone accustomed to reading an eye friendly quality Bible.  I'm not bitter, just disappointed.   I hope the next edition spaces lines and margins better.  I don't appreciate having to tilt the book to see the words sloping into the central binding due to lack of central margin space.  It's also easier to read when the lines aren't virtually abutting each other in a cramped, compressed manner as I find in the Ignatius.  Nonetheless,  the RSV/CE is a translation I trust and it complements the Douay-Rheims admirably.  Between the two, I'm relatively comfortable I'm getting the fruit from God's word.
God’s Peace,
Mark
 
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