Saint Patrick Day in Boston inclusive and parade goers don't show up

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This year was the first year for the parade to be inclusive includng 2 gay groups.

The results from reporters were that even thought the route was shortened due to snow, few spectators showed up.

There were 3 floats and only one outright catholic school participated, Bishop Guertin from New Hampshire…

This is a parade in the pass that has had up to 1 million spectators but not this years. The crowd was sparse, no one looking out windows and just a no-go.

I just wonder if this parade is done now. People are attending smaller, less controversial parades.
 
This is one of the groups that attended the parade and took pictures Here is their article. with pictures…

massresistance.org/docs/gen2/15a/St-Patricks-Parade/index.html

At one time Saint Valentine’s Day or Saint Nicholas was called that. Today we only call it Valentine’s or Xmas. I wonder if this parade will be just Patrick’s parade.

It has certainly lost its support from the lack of spectators.
 
gam197 said:
This is one of the groups that attended the parade and took pictures Here is their article. with pictures…

massresistance.org/docs/gen2/15a/St-Patricks-Parade/index.html

At one time Saint Valentine’s Day or Saint Nicholas was called that. Today we only call it Valentine’s or Xmas. I wonder if this parade will be just Patrick’s parade.

It has certainly lost its support from the lack of spectators.
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Surely you know that the feast of St. Nicholas and Christmas are two totally separate things, yes? But being Massachusetts Irish, I think it’s time to give the parade a rest. It’s no longer about Irish pride, but a cultural flashpoint co-opted for other agendas and concerning which the publicity is invariably negative in any media coverage of traditional values. The fact that the dominant Boston newspaper is blatently anti-Catholic just adds to all this. Let it go.
 
Why are homosexuals so insistent on hijacking our religious parades (such as St. Patrick’s day) for the purpose of turning it into a celebration of their lifestyle?

Can’t they hold their own gay pride parades (as theu have done for decades)?
 
Johann_du_Toit said:
Why are homosexuals so insistent on hijacking our religious parades (such as St. Patrick’s day) for the purpose of turning it into a celebration of their lifestyle?

Can’t they hold their own gay pride parades (as theu have done for decades)?
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You know why… Its because they can’t show tolerance for our beliefs. They want to remove all public witness to Christians living our faith. It shows a poverty of character and charity, and makes me think they view the faithful as a thorn in their side. It also makes me question the level of conviction or comfort many of them have with their own “lifestyle choices”

Nice link gam197 👍
 
I suspect the idea of Catholic related parades began as processions. The main purpose of a procession is to facilitate conversion in the marchers. A secondary purpose is a public witness to our faith, to suggest spiritual renewal to others.

Over time, in some American cities ethnic groups that had faced fierce discrimination embraced parades to affirm their ethnic pride. It became a show of strength - how many politicians this year? Look how powerful we are becoming! Parades became occasions for drunkenness. The spiritual element was still more present in some, less in others, but usually not that important anymore, even before the issue with gay rights marchers.

I know of a few tiny parish based parades that begin with Mass, and don’t attract spectators, not much drinking, and those are fine. I suggest let the big parades go. The battle to exclude groups with hostile agendas is lost, and these parades aren’t worth fighting over. The damage done by heavy drinking alone was enough to withdraw Catholic endorsement anyway.

Bring back processions! In my city a few parishes are restoring Corpus Christi processions. We had Stations of the Cross this year outdoors, from an inner city mission. We went down the sidewalks and streets of an impoverished neighborhood, dozens of people, and the priest stopped at various places to read the prayers for that station. Young people took turns carrying the cross. No politicians, no police (we had to be careful to let cars go through), no honor guard. We didn’t attract or facilitate any drinking, hopefully the few watching from their homes weren’t drunk.
 
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I suspect the idea of Catholic related parades began as processions. The main purpose of a procession is to facilitate conversion in the marchers. A secondary purpose is a public witness to our faith, to suggest spiritual renewal to others.

Over time, in some American cities ethnic groups that had faced fierce discrimination embraced parades to affirm their ethnic pride. It became a show of strength - how many politicians this year? Look how powerful we are becoming! Parades became occasions for drunkenness. The spiritual element was still more present in some, less in others, but usually not that important anymore, even before the issue with gay rights marchers.

I know of a few tiny parish based parades that begin with Mass, and don’t attract spectators, not much drinking, and those are fine. I suggest let the big parades go. The battle to exclude groups with hostile agendas is lost, and these parades aren’t worth fighting over.

Bring back processions! In my city a few parishes are restoring Corpus Christi processions. We had Stations of the Cross this year outdoors, from an inner city mission. We went down the sidewalks and streets of an impoverished neighborhood, dozens of people, and the priest stopped at various places to read the prayers for that station. Young people took turns carrying the cross. No politicians, no police (we had to be careful to let cars go through), no honor guard. We didn’t attract any drunks, hopefully the few watching from their homes weren’t drunk.
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Excellent post and points! But it doesn’t speak directly to the OP’s observations. This deserves its own thread. 👍
 
gam197 said:
This year was the first year for the parade to be inclusive includng 2 gay groups.

The results from reporters were that even thought the route was shortened due to snow, few spectators showed up.

There were 3 floats and only one outright catholic school participated, Bishop Guertin from New Hampshire…

This is a parade in the pass that has had up to 1 million spectators but not this years. The crowd was sparse, no one looking out windows and just a no-go.

I just wonder if this parade is done now. People are attending smaller, less controversial parades.
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What you class as ‘reporters’ are writers for a web site that suggests it is pro family but which is no doubt at all anti-gay. Show a picture of some apartments with no-one in the windows and say no-one was watching. Show some pictures of police and suggest there needed to be an increased police presence. Say there were just 3 floats and hope no-one checks.

For an event that you seem to think was practically a non-event due to someone having the sense to say that gays groups were no longer no banned, it seems to have gone off spectacularly well.

There more more politicians there than you could poke a stick at. Even the VP called in.

There were 10 ffre and drum groups marching.

There were 25 different bands.

There were 40 separate military units marching.

There were 60 registered floats.

There were 1500 police and firefighters marching.

There were 40,000 registered marchers.

Look at any of the pictures from the Boston Globe and the crowd is 3 or 4 deep in places. bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2015/03/bostons-st-patricks-day-parade-by-the-numbers.html?page=all

Yeah, really went badly, didn’t it. Gee, I’d hate to think how many people would have to have been there for you to describe be it as a success…

Your post has no connection with reality and is nothing more than a feeble and desperate attempt to denigrate a well loved, well supported and iconic event simply because it now does not ban gays. Three groups show up and you say the sky is falling.

Laughable.
 
Bradski said:
What you class as ‘reporters’ are writers for a web site that suggests it is pro family but which is no doubt at all anti-gay. Show a picture of some apartments with no-one in the windows and say no-one was watching. Show some pictures of police and suggest there needed to be an increased police presence. Say there were just 3 floats and hope no-one checks.

For an event that you seem to think was practically a non-event due to someone having the sense to say that gays groups were no longer no banned, it seems to have gone off spectacularly well.

There more more politicians there than you could poke a stick at. Even the VP called in.

There were 10 ffre and drum groups marching.

There were 25 different bands.

There were 40 separate military units marching.

There were 60 registered floats.

There were 1500 police and firefighters marching.

There were 40,000 registered marchers.

Look at any of the pictures from the Boston Globe and the crowd is 3 or 4 deep in places. bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2015/03/bostons-st-patricks-day-parade-by-the-numbers.html?page=all

Yeah, really went badly, didn’t it. Gee, I’d hate to think how many people would have to have been there for you to describe be it as a success…

Your post has no connection with reality and is nothing more than a feeble and desperate attempt to denigrate a well loved, well supported and iconic event simply because it now does not ban gays. Three groups show up and you say the sky is falling.

Laughable.
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Your article doesn’t show any pictures.

There were lots of politicians, firefighters, police officers marching etc. no one is saying they weren’t there.

This group took pictures and reported what they saw, lack of catholic groups and low spectator turnout.

Next year I may go and see for myself.😃
 
gam197 said:
Your article doesn’t show any pictures.

There were lots of politicians, firefighters, police officers marching etc. no one is saying they weren’t there.

This group took pictures and reported what they saw, lack of catholic groups and low spectator turnout.

Next year I may go and see for myself.😃
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All the pictures ye may want.
 
Bruised_Reed said:
All the pictures ye may want.
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Just because you put in a date and press images does not mean these are from this year’s parade. These are most likely from prior years.

I really would like to know th truth on this. Was this parade a bust and by that I mean was it just politicians, firefighters, police and people that are more or less told to march without the catholic floats and church participation and the crowds.

Article on how pictures can be deceiving…

blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/04/how-election-campaigning-works/
 
gam197 said:
Just because you put in a date and press images does not mean these are from this year’s parade. These are most likely from prior years.

I really would like to know th truth on this. Was this parade a bust and by that I mean was it just politicians, firefighters, police and people that are more or less told to march without the catholic floats and church participation and the crowds.

Article on how pictures can be deceiving…

blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/04/how-election-campaigning-works/
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Yeah, but you can click on the pix to see the article/source. I did for several and they are from this year’s parade.
 
Bruised_Reed said:
Yeah, but you can click on the pix to see the article/source. I did for several and they are from this year’s parade.
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I did click on many just to try and get some current pictures and still can’t get an idea- some show crowds while other show blank areas like this one.

This was once a robust parade route. I read that the parade was shortened to about 1/2 its normal length this year.

Here is a youtube video and the crowd looks sparse. The New York parade video which folows it looks even worse.:eek:

youtube.com/watch?v=ybqbgN3yFbU
 
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