Saint Thomas More's shocking and extremely coarse language!

[raumzeitmc2]

You all are tied up in knotts about changes in the acceptability of some words in English. Nowadays, we don’t say these words in polite company, but we all say them, all of us. In Henry VIII’s time and in Elizabethan times, these words were in common use.

True, they were undoubtedly in use by some in the lower classes, but by scholars and ecclesiastics?

To accuse Sir Thomas More of vulgarity is really petty and silly and well…(I shall not drift into the language standards of another time).

What’s silly about it? How is it you are so certain that folks in More’s England *wouldn’t *have been surprised and offended by his language?

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“Christians must be taught to cherish excommunications rather than to fear them” – (Bull of Pope Leo X citing Luther, 1520).

…and a lot of bull from Girolamo Savonarola (1452-1498) …

“Whoever excommunicates me excommunicates God.”

 

[KathleenGee]

Consider the writings of Shakespeare…and some think he was Catholic.

The English are internationally renowned in the field of literature and expression of language.

 

[manualman]

Weird thread. People are shocked that More used poty mouthed insults and wonder if that characteristic ought to have been a disqualifier for sainthood? Have these people ever met a professional fisherman? Certain aspects of human nature just don’t change. Blue collar then isn’t likely much different than blue collar now. And plenty of good comes with the coarseness, of course, which is likely why Jesus picked such men to be his apostles.